Finally managed to get the Halifax control column and yoke out of our old member’s garage. The column is intact; complete and working; the brake levers operate; and the yoke grip covering is in really good condition.
The column also retains the lateral cross-tube which supports the elevator operating lever and retains the column floor mounting brackets which still move.
Numbers on the yoke: AH10278, ACG2235.
Numbers on the column top: HP802; and on the bottom of the column: HP803.
However; he gave me duff gen on the Halifax throttle quadrant… it’s a Lancaster; and looks like a later Lancaster I, Lancaster III or Lancaster X aircraft.
It still has the supercharge lever slot on the right-hand side, but there never was a lever fitted in there. All the rest of the levers and the friction locks are present, working and intact. This says to me that this quadrant might be an early airframe modded with the superchargers operated by electro-pneumatic rams of the single-action spring-return type. In the case of electrical or pneumatic failure the rams returned to the M ratio position. A switch, fitted to the pilot’s instrument panel immediately below the engine speed indicators, controlled all four engines simultaneously, and a red warning light beside it indicated S ratio on the ground only.
When I’ve off-loaded twenty years of cobwebs, dead spiders and accumulated dust, I’ll post pictures for interested parties.
By: windhover - 17th May 2015 at 10:48
The ex-CARG Halifax Control Column has now departed for its new home with redhillwings.
As far as I am aware, this now completes the clearing out of the remainder of the old CARG inventory… (unless anything else surfaces from various garages.)
Thanks to everyone who took an interest in this thread.
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th May 2015 at 12:59
Windhover please see your e-mail from yesterday!!
I see that the “other” HP Halifax incomplete Control Column has re-appeared on craigslist after making the rounds for a couple of years on evilbay/craigslist/evilbay/craigslist etc, etc…
http://aberdeen.de.craigslist.co.uk/cbd/4961839715.html
At present, 57 Rescue are are still ‘umming and ‘ahhing about a deal for the CARG complete, and un-corroded version… so if anyone’s still interested…
By: Whitley_Project - 4th May 2015 at 21:14
As a former member of CARG ( way back in the early days) and one who was instrumental in collecting some of the Aston Down ‘stash’, what became of the Lanc DV panel?
ISTR we had in the CARG store at the same time a P51B side window, which was rescued from a certain Wiltshire scrap yard.
Is the ‘other’ Halifax column the one that changed hands in a Norfolk auction a few years back?
Yes Geoff – that’s the one.
By: windhover - 4th May 2015 at 19:07
57 Rescue have responded that they are still in the game for the CARG Halifax Control Column…
so take my previous post as a heads up to just keep clear of the Craigslist scam.
By: Canberra Geoff - 4th May 2015 at 19:06
As a former member of CARG ( way back in the early days) and one who was instrumental in collecting some of the Aston Down ‘stash’, what became of the Lanc DV panel?
ISTR we had in the CARG store at the same time a P51B side window, which was rescued from a certain Wiltshire scrap yard.
Is the ‘other’ Halifax column the one that changed hands in a Norfolk auction a few years back?
By: FLY.BUY - 4th May 2015 at 18:48
Windhover
The Halifax column on Craigslist belonged to me – it is pictured on my carpet at home. It was sold on ebay a few years ago and went to a genuine collector in the US. Someone has taken the picture off ebay and the rest is history. I did try contacting the seller on Craigslist. I got his number but he told me there was no point ringing him as he had just had some dental work done and could not speak!
Well worth avoiding that one…
Interesting, thanks for giving everyone the heads up on this.
By: Whitley_Project - 4th May 2015 at 18:08
Windhover
The Halifax column on Craigslist belonged to me – it is pictured on my carpet at home. It was sold on ebay a few years ago and went to a genuine collector in the US. Someone has taken the picture off ebay and the rest is history. I did try contacting the seller on Craigslist. I got his number but he told me there was no point ringing him as he had just had some dental work done and could not speak!
Well worth avoiding that one…
By: windhover - 4th May 2015 at 14:24
I see that the “other” HP Halifax incomplete Control Column has re-appeared on craigslist after making the rounds for a couple of years on evilbay/craigslist/evilbay/craigslist etc, etc…
http://aberdeen.de.craigslist.co.uk/cbd/4961839715.html
At present, 57 Rescue are are still ‘umming and ‘ahhing about a deal for the CARG complete, and un-corroded version… so if anyone’s still interested…
By: windhover - 30th April 2015 at 20:42
As I remember; (and this was in the mid-eighties); his intention for the Halifax nose cone was for it to go to Elvington. As to whether this happened, I couldn’t say.
By: Canberra Geoff - 30th April 2015 at 20:29
At one time Tony had a glazed Halifax nose cone-all complete but cracks to the Perspex- I wonder what happened to that?
By: austernj673 - 30th April 2015 at 14:27
Another one from Air Ministry’s ever giving garage and thanks to Alan now on display for all to see. We better put it under armed guard if they are now worth as much as the one advertised.
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By: FLY.BUY - 30th April 2015 at 14:03
Regardless of cost or who bought it I have to agree with Runway06 – it’s great that these items keep turning up. In my opinion far better to see it and have the chance of owning it than having items locked away in dusty store rooms never to see the light of day!
Rob
Ps.. Thanks for the pics windover, and nice quadrant AM
I agree, it’s just good enough looking at the picture let alone owning it. Wonder just how many of these are out there?
By: Wyvernfan - 30th April 2015 at 13:55
Regardless of cost or who bought it I have to agree with Runway06 – it’s great that these items keep turning up. In my opinion far better to see it and have the chance of owning it than having items locked away in dusty store rooms never to see the light of day!
Rob
Ps.. Thanks for the pics windover, and nice quadrant AM
By: Arabella-Cox - 30th April 2015 at 12:27
There’s still one or two around…
By: MerlinPete - 30th April 2015 at 11:55
Sorry, understood.
Pete
By: windhover - 30th April 2015 at 10:50
From the previous posts; you see that the Lanc quadrant has been moved on, and ownership has been transferred.
By: MerlinPete - 30th April 2015 at 10:11
Bloody hell! £10,000
When does this thread get classed as advertising?
Pete
By: Runway06 - 29th April 2015 at 22:01
Beautiful throttle box , immaculate condition and certainly rare, such a treasure. I see that it or a similar one is now for sale on a well known web site.
Nice to see that there are still good finds out there.
By: Rockall - 17th April 2015 at 19:05
Way back in 1974 whilst serving at RAF Coningsby I delivered an identical Halifax control column to the RAF Museum in Hendon. It had been found in the roof of a barn on a nearby farm still wrapped in greaseproof paper in a wooden crate. The finder handed it into the local Lincoln Aviation Museum at which I was a ‘helper’. It was decided to donate it to the RAF Museum as there had recently been a Halifax recovered from a Nordic frozen lake. Photos of the recovered wreck showed that it was lacking a control column. We got a lot of strange looks while on the tube with the thing which was a handful to manage.
It’s probably in a box somewhere …
By: Wyvernfan - 17th April 2015 at 14:04
PM sent on behalf of someone!
Rob
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