Does anyone have a picture of the flight deck of the Aviation Traders Carvair? I believe there were only about 21 made. One carcass can be seen in on Google Earth in northern Alaska at 67°1’16.63″N 146°31’53.51″W. I saw an operational one years ago at Rand Airport in South Africa when I was learning to fly.
Regards
Ralph W
By: Runway06 - 31st March 2025 at 12:14
Carvair manual on ebay if anyone is interested:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATL-98-CARVAIR-FLIGHT-MANUAL_W0QQitemZ260547769535QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Aeronautica_MJ?hash=item3ca9db74bf
By: kartman - 16th January 2017 at 18:29
Not sure about the full history of the control line carvair, i bought it from the wife of Laurie Rowe, an ex BAF Carvair pilot who had sadly passed away and the family were selling off some of his things. I have been told it was made by a couple of guys who ran a model shop in Leigh on Sea (maybe it was Wings and Wheels?) The carvair was hanging from Laurie`s dining room ceiling, suspended by a trouser belt. I had to hire a van to get it home as it is a one piece model! I also bought a cylinder head, tyre and the Carvair prop that had been standing in his garden, unfortunately some theiving g*its had sawn one of the blades off one night and made off with it………….Martin
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By: WJ244 - 9th January 2017 at 16:40
Is that control line Carvair model the one built in the 60’s and once allegedly owned by a Southend Councillor. I think it was also displayed in John Creasey’s furnitiure shop at one time?
By: AlanR - 6th January 2017 at 21:53
any of you guys on the facebook Carvair page?
Didn’t know there was one.
By: kartman - 6th January 2017 at 17:46
Fat Albert, Plain Jane, Big Bill and Big Louie spring to mind, there may have been more?……………Martin
By: Classic7 - 6th January 2017 at 17:17
Brings back memories. I learnt to fly at Southend Airport in 1976 and well remember the Carvairs obscuring the apron in smoke on startup. Also it was not uncommon to see one on final with an engine shutdown. Apparently the engines did not cope well with the very short sectors being flown. They were run by British Air Ferries and given names. I can recall Big John and Fat Annie. Anyone know the others?
By: Jamie-Southend - 6th January 2017 at 16:00
any of you guys on the facebook Carvair page?
By: Argonaut - 31st December 2016 at 15:46
One of the 2 Ansett ANA Carvairs under conversion at Stansted in 1965
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By: scotavia - 30th December 2016 at 18:54
That is one hell of a coffee table…
By: kartman - 30th December 2016 at 17:20
Many thanks for posting those, very interesting to see what`s under the skin of these great aircraft………….Martin
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By: WJ244 - 29th October 2010 at 22:29
Brought back great memories of that wonderful distinctive sound and even had the tyre squeal that seemed to be a characteristic of almost every Carvair landing run.
The start up seemed less spectacular than I remember at Southend – a lot less smoke and no sign of the flames that used to have mums and dads on the viewing terrace worried as they thought it was the start of a fire.
By: GrahamSimons - 29th October 2010 at 18:28
Now that takes me back to Southend!
By: Jamie-Southend - 29th October 2010 at 16:59
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th December 2009 at 05:24
Looks like they just cut the cockpit out and rebuilt it into the bubble? I have bought the book “The ATL-98 CARVAIR: A Comprehensive History Of The Aircraft And All 21 Airframes” from Ian Allan Publishing if anyone is interested, good price.
By: Moreorless - 27th December 2009 at 08:11
Here’s one of 9Q-CTI taken near Lanseria Johannesburg sometime in the mid nineties. Not my picture – its taken by Mark Wolhuter – I was on the flight deck at the time and spent a week flying with the aeroplane in the DRC some months later – a real adventure. I have a partial panel shot somewhere amongst my slides as well as some photos taken during ops.
By: Barrie MacLeod - 27th December 2009 at 00:16
Carvair
Eastern Provincial Airways in Canada had three. CF-EPW shown here in Gander.
One had a hard landing in Labrador and two were sold back to English interests.
The 747 under the tail is F-BPVD in Gander with a bomb scare on 8 September 1972.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th December 2009 at 19:03
Patrick used to pop in here occasionally. He spent years trying to get the book published.
There’s a glowing review towards the bottom of this thread.
I found the book here for £45.95 :
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/product.php?productid=64493&cat=0&page=1
Gonna buy it for me for Xmas:D
By: Scouse - 13th December 2009 at 13:44
They always got my attention when I was growing up near Southend and they regularly thundered overhead.:)
Similarly in Liverpool in the 1960s when Aer Lingus used them. The engine note always seemed a little bit heavier and louder that the standard DC-4s and C-54s of the day: were they re-engined, or did the engines just have to work a bit harder?
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th December 2009 at 12:14
This is the Carvair in South Africa. I doubt if it is still flying.
By: dhfan - 9th December 2009 at 12:52
Patrick used to pop in here occasionally. He spent years trying to get the book published.
There’s a glowing review towards the bottom of this thread.
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