Carvair To Be Broken Up?

Thats great to hear Hap I would love to be around for that

That is great to hear 🙂

Wecome to the mad house (sorry, I mean Forum) hap2_be

Roger Smith.

Welcome to the Forum especially with the good news! Please keep us informed and best wishes for the future.:)

I currently work for Phoebus Apollo Aviation, and there is definitely no plans to cut up the Carvair. It is in a very sad condition at the moment, but the owner does one day plan to restore it to its full glory! I hope I’m still around the day when this magnificent aircraft takes to the sky again!

Jamie and Ref, if you drive past the memorial, for maybe 1 mile, the cockpit is in the corner of the car park at a small group of former airfield buildings used for light industry, if you get there you can’t miss it ! Keith.

REF

REF – Can i ask where in Halesworth the cockpit is ?

Unusually for me I had to travel that way this morning, I found Halesworth ok, the museum and the war memorial, 🙂 but no cockpit, just a load of Bernard Mathews lorries 😀

Jamie

9J-PAA was indeed offered for sale just under 2 years ago, for around £125,000 – fully airworthy, including spares etc.

You could even have had it flown to the UK for an additional charge !

Quite what happens to it on arrival is another matter. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately the chances of saving a real one are pretty remote but thoiught you might all like to know that there are 1/200 diecast models available.
BAF – last colours, British United and Channel Air Bridge should be available now. Gator Air services should be available as limited stock and Aer Lingus is due this month. Original British Air Ferries colours are sold out.
They should be available from most outlets (RRP £39.99) but if you have trouble then PM me and I may be able to help.

It’s not so much as to whether they can be rescued or not – it’s whether there is somewhere to put it when it arrives! We dearly need to preserve one in the U.K and I would be greatly in favour of someone approaching HLF with a scheme to get one back.

Richard Branson has got enough cash to rescue either of these two airframes and he’s certainly an admirer of Freddie Laker…

Buster The Bear, I agree with your sentiments entirly, but the chances seem to be slipping away far to quickly ??? Keith.

Oh to see a Carvair in BAF colours once more within the UK. Sadly only a minority would understand its value to UK aviation during the 1960’s & 1970’s!

A Freddie Laker memorial?

I think you are probably correct. 9J-PAA seen here with four engines in the company of some DC-4’s.

http://www.airliners.net/articles/read.main?id=65

And here is a video of it flying!

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Aviation_Traders_ATL-98_Carvair-Airline_Phoebus_Apollo_Aviation_Aviation_Video-1322.html

Unless anyone knows differently ,#21 , 9J-PAA,has been at Phoebus Apollo’s base at Rand Airport,South Africa for the last few years and not Kinshasa,Congo.

Hello all I am a newcomer to the site I found it whilst browsing Carvair history.
I worked on them in the sixties at stansted, as far as I am aware there aren’t any of them left to save now which is a great shame,they were good days fondly remembered.

Welcome to the forum… perhaps you could relate some of your experiences, or some photographs from your time at Stansted.

As it happens, there are two complete Carvairs surviving at present. Carvair #9 is operating in Texas, USA. Carvair #21, the primary subject of this thread, still exists in Kinshasa, Congo, although it is no longer airworthy.

Cheers,
Richard

Hello all I am a newcomer to the site I found it whilst browsing Carvair history.
I worked on them in the sixties at stansted, as far as I am aware there aren’t any of them left to save now which is a great shame,they were good days fondly remembered.

I did put in another thread that G-AOFW was under the watchful eye of Historic Aircraft Museum manager Bill Gent when it was parked out at Southend. The arrangement was that if it came to move her or scrap her she would be moved to the museum car park (the only space available at the museum to take her) as a temporary measure. Sadly the closure of the museum spelt the end of her potential lifeline and she eventually met her end at the hands of a JCB driver.
A Carvair should be saved and as most of them spent the vast part of their lives on the Channel crossing it would be appropriate to preserve one at Southend or maybe Lydd but as far as I am aware there is no potential home at either airfield.

I went up to Halesworth yesterday (Saturday 8th March 2008) and found her in the same place as the last time I saw her, got a selection of photos for those who are interested.

Richard

Have been looking at “Classic Propliners” forum, and a nice person, from there, has mailed the owners, re scrapping, their reply denies this, saying they are busy with other projects, and have no time to spend on the Carvair at the moment ! Another contributor has posted a photo of the same aircraft, taken on 15.01.08 engineless ? Would not dare to post that pic here as I may “break the rules” and I do not want to have my hand slapped. So it may not be all bad news ! I just love looking on the positive side. Keith.

The Halesworth Carvair nose was also Aer Lingus EI-AMR before it became CF-EPV.

CF-EPV in EI-AMR guise gobbling up a car at Speke – http://kenfielding.fotopic.net/p44370232.html

Jon