March 8, 2005 at 3:01 am
Hi
I think it’s time for a little discussion about character and rights on this forum..
The purpose of free speech in democracies is that people have the right to it!
I do not like or agree with a lot of comments on various forums , moreover I find some posts to be of little interest. I find some posters relavent and knowlagable and some closed minded and ignorant – a sort of microcosim of the world in fact.
For me the point is that we should be tolerant of peoples rights to say what they feel even if you violently disagree with it. The boundary for me is when they go over the top and have to be dealt with by moderators and that is what moderators are there for – we are not there to banter about peoples reputations or cause personal insult or damage.
Some people who post are not as robust physically or mentally as others and are not as in control as we would all like but does that mean that they are banned because they do not conform to our model of “normal”. Like I said let moderators moderate and when necessary interdict.
A little care for each other goes a long way. Try this – if you really don’t like a post on a forum , talk to the poster and talk over the issues, “adopt’ them and see if you can’t come to a shared view or understanding of their position. If you can’t reach an understanding then just move on and don’t react when you get agrivated. At least you tried and you gained a little perspective of where they are coming from………………………
Anyway thats my opinion and now we can all have a good slag off of it!!!
Regards
John P
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd July 2005 at 13:20
I got home last night to find Julie smiling. She hasn’t done enough of that of late. And then within a few seconds of shutting the front door, we were both in tears. Relief, release, hope. And now after reading some of the comments that have been added here since yesterday, I’m close to them again. Just had a tot up of folks on here, and there are eleven on this page who I have met outside the forum, many of whom I count as friends. You know who you are. Your messages here, and others via PM, show me that there is no such thing as a ‘clique’ here; we’re a community. I’m particularly touched by the messages from those I’ve never met – you guys don’t know me from Adam, yet you’ve felt moved enough to post good wishes. I’m very grateful, and very humbled too. Especially when I read of some of the problems others are going through, or have gone through, or face in the future.
YakRider – I’m delighted at your news, my fingers are crossed for good ‘Dog running weather on Sunday. ๐
Stormbird – my problems pale into insignificance mate…
Turbo – “we’re here for a good time not a long time” Amen to that, buddy.
Rocketeer – have a great weekend, and keep smiling. But cork that dog up. ๐
Seafuryfan – quite a decision there my friend, hope it all works for you. Say hi to the boys from me and my one.
TT – our fingers are crossed for your Mum too.
Ta all. ๐
By: YakRider - 22nd July 2005 at 08:03
Marvellous news. I’m glad things are working out for you all again.
Heard on Tuesday that the CAA have reinstated my medical with no restrictions at long last. So hopefully will be taking the ‘Dog for a run on Sunday. All of a sudden the world looks a bit brighter for me too.
YR
By: STORMBIRD262 - 22nd July 2005 at 07:47
Another Late one but.
Steve, Ash, best wishe’s from me too, from Downunda!!!.
My great Grandmother year’s back, Once said these word’s to me when she was about 85 not out, she was nearly finished, and crippled with arthritise baddly.
There is alway’s someone else in the world worst off then me, I can not complain.
Those word’s helped me fight my M.S. and do heap’s of V/work for the M.S. society here in Victoria, Seeing it FULL ON, and visiting many type’s of Nursing home’s for the last 10 year’s of the 13 year’s I have had it.
Made Hundred’s of friend’s with, and without M.S.
And the saying really doe’s give me that extra promt to get out of bed everyday, When some day’s I feel like staying there for a WEEK.
Don’t care Thread has NO HISTORIC AIRCRAFT at ALL!!!,
All the Best to all the Lady’s and Gent’s outthere in the World
By: turbo_NZ - 22nd July 2005 at 02:21
Well, I got diagnosed with epilepsy last year. While not exactly life-threatening, it did give me quite a scare (having a tonic-clonic seizure in the middle of a board-meeting !!) and made my “reprioritise” my life.
Family (particularly my brand-new marriage) have become all the more important to me. You only get one chance at a life on this earth (while until proven otherwise). Seeing and doing things you wouldn’t normally go and see and do. For instance, on our honeymoon we went up in a DH Fox-Moth. My wife absolutely loved it (to my amazement and joy).
I love going onto this forum and learning more and more about classic aviation from people who are not a lot different from me (despite living 1000’s of kms away).
I try to contribute where I can and comment on posts I particularily like.
THe support people here give is great and even little things like wishing you a happy birthday makes you feel really good to know that the forum crowd does care.
All I can say is “we’re here for a good time, not a long time”
My NZ$00.02 worth…
Cheers
TNZ
By: Seafuryfan - 22nd July 2005 at 01:04
To The Brave
Talk about the latecomer…It’s my first view of this post tonight. I just don’t get the time I used to have.
The many moving posts on this thread have re-enforced on my recent decision for a major career change in order to spend more time with my growing family. I’m getting to that stage of life (like many of you) where I am shortly to be ‘the older generation’. Its painful to see so many we know in illness, or who are departing; it reminds us, as has been commented on, about the important things in life.
I don’t really have ‘close’ friends in my daily life. Many colleagues, but no close friends. The comradeship I get from the Forum sort of takes care of that for me. I too, have considered the Forum as the nearest thing to getting down to the (aleless) pub with similar-minded mates. I am still amazed at our worldwide community (e.g Jagan doing his thing in India) and really enjoy the contributions from far and wide. And I agree that the meet-ups really do cement those relationships in a really tangible way – the inevitable banter on the Forum resulting from those relationships is fine by me. It’s what helps give the place a human dimension.
Blokes, particularly, are not supposed to be much good at opening up about stuff. This post proves that theory wrong – you’re a brave bunch and you all have a Seafuryfan arm round your shoulders.
Rick
By: turbo_NZ - 21st July 2005 at 23:40
Also, to echo what others have said, pleased for you Steve and Ashley.
Cheers
TNZ
By: Rocketeer - 21st July 2005 at 22:57
It is nice in a world that can sometimes be so horrible that rays of sunshine can shine through..pleased for you Steve, Julie & Ashley….take care forumites….remember we all have one great thing in common historic aviation.
As I write this my lot has improved after two horrible years (won’t bore you), I have my girls for the weekend which is fantastic fun, one negative…the dog (an adorable Westie who I have joint custody of) has just produced her own body weight in smelly gufff…..gotta smile! gotta open the door quick!
By: Auster Fan - 21st July 2005 at 19:49
Somehow the posts from Steve and Ashley passed me by, for which I feel somewhat ashamed. Somewhat belatedly I am very pleased for both of you and your families and I hope the good news continues.
By: HP57 - 21st July 2005 at 18:48
Steve,
That’s fantastic news,
Cheers
Cees
By: Napier Sabre - 21st July 2005 at 16:37
Steve,
great news mate.
By: met24 - 21st July 2005 at 16:26
Very good news Steve.
All the best — M
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 21st July 2005 at 13:45
Steve and Ashley – good news
I knew Steves situation but not Ashleys – waiting for my Mums op now after the Chaemo failed – but as my Grandad said (and my Mum does now) ..’if you cant take a joke, you shouldntve joined’….
Bottom line, cyberspace isnt a subsitute for the real world, just an escape from it, unpleasantness on the forum ruins the escape.
Cheers then
TT
By: Manonthefence - 21st July 2005 at 12:09
Cracking news.
By: Moggy C - 21st July 2005 at 11:38
To Steve ๐
To Ashley :p
Really pleased Steve.
Moggy.
By: Ashley - 21st July 2005 at 11:31
And I would like to add, that in the light of recent forum spats, I hope we can all acknowledge that sometimes there are things far more precious in life…life itself…
By: Ashley - 21st July 2005 at 11:29
Steve, I am so pleased to hear this news ๐ Fingers very tightly crossed for continued improvement for Julie’s mum.
Becka
(Someone pass me a tissue :o)
By: Arabella-Cox - 21st July 2005 at 11:23
There’s no historic aviation content in this posting, nor are there any airshow photos. But quite frankly, I couldn’t give a stuff about that.
Those of you who know me and Julie, and know what we’ve collectively had to go through recently, will know that the past few months have been extremely hard. The day at Duxford two weeks ago was a rare spot of light relief for Julie in what really has been an awful year, and she thanks everyone who made her feel welcome, even if she does now have a complex about blokes looking at her bum all the time (Snapper).
Part of what we’ve had to cope with is detailed in previous posts in this thread – her mum was diagnosed with cancer in March. Since then, we’ve had the breast cancer ruled out as being a misdiagnosis of scar tissue from a previous operation, we’ve had the news that the lung cancer could not be operated on as she would be highly unlikely to survive the removal of a lung, and she’s had a four week radiography course, being blitzed by radiation in an attempt to stop the cancer spreading further throughout the lung.
Two weeks ago, the day before Legends, we found out that today would be the day Julie’s mum got the results of the radiography.
I’ve just had the call from Julie โ itโs too early to say for sure, but the signs are that mumโs cancer has either shrunk, gone, or is going. Her radiography treatment finished about six weeks ago, but the effects still work for three months afterwards, so they want her back in for an x-ray in about six weeks time to re-assess it, and then six weeks after that to check again, after which theyโll have a much clearer idea of how it looks. But theyโre saying now that she looks a lot better than she did, and all the current signs suggest that the treatment has had a positive effect.
I apologise for any spelling mistakes, because I’m typing this through a haze of tears. The last few days in particular have been awful – not knowing what the outcome would be, fearing the worst, wondering how long, wondering whether mum would still be with us to see her daughter get married…
We’ve still got other stuff to deal with, some of which isn’t pleasant but I won’t bore you with the details. But this is one worry which, although it hasn’t totally gone yet, has suddenly diminished into much more managable proportions. I feel as if a huge weight has been lifted…
There has been a lot of crap on here in recent weeks, but I’ve never forgotten the messages of support that I received from a lot of you – either on public threads or via pm’s -when the news first broke back in March. Thank you, one and all. You have no idea how much that support has meant to us.
As I say, there’s no historic content here. But I felt I owed it to those who wished us luck, to tell you that things look so much more positive than they did yesterday, and to thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
By: Snaps - 11th March 2005 at 17:29
Excellant news Becka. planejunky and I send you and your family our best wishes.
Take care,
Danni
By: Snapper - 11th March 2005 at 17:19
Brilliant news Becka, i’m very pleased to hear it. Please pass on my best wishes, and they of course go out to you too.
mark
By: Avro's Finest - 11th March 2005 at 16:29
Dear all,
Thank you so very much for all your good thoughts and good wishes, I am so relieved to tell you all that the lump removed from Dad’s eye proved to be benign. Thus ends an extremely worrying three months for my family. I cannot tell you how much I appreciated the kinds words from my friends here, and Dad was very touched when I told him that my friends were all rooting for him, and he says thank you ๐
.Thank you all again from the bottom of my heart,
Becka xxxxx
No thanks required, just wish him well from us….
Steve