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Chariots of Fire FW190 landing incident

http://i.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/67607269/ww2-fighters-brake-fails-during-landing-at-omaka-aerodrome

Damn Shame but glad there were no injuries.

They don’t have a fantastic record with these aircraft…

Hopefully back in the air before too long, but certainly going to cost a few quid.

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By: ErrolC - 6th February 2016 at 06:55

Photos of moving and disassembly
https://www.facebook.com/ClassicWingsMagazine/photos/pcb.1045049742203029/1045049442203059/?type=3&theater

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By: ErrolC - 23rd December 2015 at 04:35

A bit of a fund-raiser for the rebuild, and new photos of it in the hangar post-crash./
https://www.facebook.com/ClassicWingsMagazine/photos/pcb.1020622074645796/1020613717979965/?type=3&permPage=1

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By: ErrolC - 4th May 2015 at 21:24

Old Chestnuts. It must be nearly Christmas…. :sleeping:

A month after the last comment on that aspect, you make this post? Not exactly helpful.

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By: octavian - 4th May 2015 at 20:47

So many people talk about a “replica” in a derisory way. Surely, every subsequent production model is a replication of the original? That makes every subsequent airframe a replica. As Tango Charlie has commented, the Northern Aeroplane Workshop Sopwith Triplane, and others, have a validated provenance. Why not this FW190, the various Me262s as well as the other aircraft recreated around a makers plate, or, as in the case of the Elvington Halifax, a variety of components. Just enjoy the pleasure of seeing them and don’t get so hung up about origin.

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By: Tonk - 4th May 2015 at 13:47

Old Chestnuts. It must be nearly Christmas…. :sleeping:

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By: ErrolC - 28th April 2015 at 23:45

From a follow-up email from the airshow:

Focke Wulf Update
The crash-landing of the Focke Wulf 190 on the Friday has been widely reported, in varying degrees of accuracy!
It was the first crash in the history of Classic Fighters, caused by a loss of brakes during landing. While the aircraft was badly damaged pilot Frank Parker was unhurt and continued to fly throughout the weekend.
Obviously disappointed, the owner of the aircraft is already planning repairs, with the aim of having this beautiful machine flying at Classic Fighters 2017.

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By: Zac Yates - 8th April 2015 at 05:14

Depends on your definition of ‘fender bender’ I suppose, if you consider a six-figure repair bill to be insignificant!

I saw owner Murray Miers on Friday night – just after his Spitfire XIV arrived – and overhead someone pass on their sympathies about the FW190. He just shrugged his shoulders!

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By: JohnTerrell - 8th April 2015 at 02:52

Earlier in this thread it was questioned/pondered how many of the Flugwerk FW-190 kits have flown to-date – by my count there have been 9 that have flown, with those being; N190RF, N447FW (ex D-FMFW), N190BR, N190DK, N4190, ZK-RFR (ex D-FWWC), D-FWMV (ex G-FWAB), D-FWJS, and F-AZZJ. So as Mike mentioned, close to half the number of kits produced have flown, and unfortunately more than half of those that have flown have “come to grief” in various ways.

If you go to the Gosshawk Unlimited Facebook page, they have been providing regular updates on the rebuild of the Flugwerk FW-190 N190DK, which was substantially damaged from a ground loop in 2012 while it was undergoing flight tests (https://www.facebook.com/GossHawkUnlimitedInc?fref=ts). It looks well on its way to flying again this year.

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By: Mike J - 8th April 2015 at 00:40

Depends on your definition of ‘fender bender’ I suppose, if you consider a six-figure repair bill to be insignificant!

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By: ErrolC - 8th April 2015 at 00:26

There are photos of the V-1 flying, with a Spitfire (the one in NW Europe scheme even) above it.

The local paper is now reporting on the bad reporting!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/67626187/airshow-explosion-makes-international-headlines

Good to see confirmation of the talk in the Marlborough Aero Club bar on Sunday evening:

Airshow organising committee chairman Graham Orphan said the plane had landed on the grass runway when the brake failed.

It swerved heavily, damaging its undercarriage, nose and propeller.

An expert had looked over the plane, and Orphan was confident it could be operational again in as early as 12 months.

“It’s nothing near as bad as it looks,” he said.

Orphan was not concerned about the international coverage of the crash, saying no-one had been injured, and it had drawn international attention to the show.

“I’m not worried about that … [the crash] was a fender bender, it’s just a little ding in the car park … anything that gets us global exposure has the potential to bring people into Marlborough,” he said.

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By: Bob - 7th April 2015 at 10:00

like the V-1 rocket and eight Fokker triplanes flying together,’

Now that I want to see….

“We’ve all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet Daily Mail, we know this is not true.”

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By: Propstrike - 7th April 2015 at 09:38

This was on the DM comments section.

”all the images were captioned correctly as supplied by me and then as displayed by REX…..after that however……and as posted by several people the 190 incident and the “explosion’ are completely separate in that the 190 did indeed have a brake failure after landing and then ground looped but is repairable. The explosion was a replica V1 made of wood, cardboard and fibreglass and was done deliberately for effect as the Spitfire flew by.”

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By: Propstrike - 7th April 2015 at 09:19

There is no journalism to be seen here. It is a random collection of photos, assembled with odd quotes and phrases supplied by a third party who does have some knowledge.

Literally anyone could cobble together this rubbish, but DM seem to have made a commercial decision to employ cheap computer operators with negligible abilities as it makes no difference to the popularity or profitability of the website.

They may be correct, but it is still sad. The more information at our disposal, the more ignorant we become.

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By: Bulldogbuilder - 7th April 2015 at 00:34

Gentlemen, please be nice to these “cub reporters”. They have worked hard to attain the level of Superman’s friend Jimmy Olsen. Being a “copyboy” is hard work! After watching “Airplane” they had to watch “Airplane II” as well to achieve this level of expertise. Remember, if being a reporter was easy…..wait! being a reporter IS easy, being intelligent is not.

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By: Zac Yates - 6th April 2015 at 23:04

I was on the field at Omaka for all three days of the show, from 7am to 9pm or later….except for one hour on Friday, when Frank had the accident. I came back to my spot on the fence and everyone said “you missed all the excitement…”.

I’m glad I missed it, sounds like a terrible thing to have witnessed. Folks said one of the prop blades flew up 100ft or more after impact. I was so relieved to hear Frank was ok – every time I saw him over the weekend he was cheerful and laughing – but disappointed as that morning was the first time I’d seen the machine in the flesh, and I was away when it flew. Everyone you spoke to had a different version of the aircraft’s condition and “rebuildability”, but it’s not my place to speculate.

Disappointing, but it could have been much worse. Bravo Frank, and my best to the owner who seemed to shrug it off when I saw someone pass on their sympathies to him.

Here it was around 8.20amish on Good Friday, my first time laying eyes on it.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/CF15/1855E658-5BE3-41BF-9AD1-F59B170D5B25_zpsg59oila1.jpg

Probably appropriate there’s a Lycoming-engined Bf108 sitting next to it, considering how this thread has gone! 😀

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By: paul178 - 6th April 2015 at 22:53

I gave I a larf though!!

See the amazing P51 jet fighter bomber rebuilt from 200 bits while you are at it!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3027209/Incredible-vertigo-inducing-video-shows-flight-70-year-old-WWII-P-51-Mustang-fighter-jet-painstakingly-pieced-200-parts.html

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By: trumper - 6th April 2015 at 22:35

:highly_amused: I bet this made quite a sight 🙂 ” ‘We have things at this show that you won’t find at any other; like the V-1 rocket and eight Fokker triplanes flying together,’ “said show organiser Graham Orphan

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By: Propstrike - 6th April 2015 at 21:57

You have to laugh, or else you cry !

If the FW was blown to splinters like the photo implies, then it would indeed be beyond repair :rolleyes:

And then to suggest someone would walk away unharmed………..

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By: Bradburger - 6th April 2015 at 21:01

Is it still humans that put these stories together? :confused:

Cheers

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It would appear not!

Cheers

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By: Bradburger - 6th April 2015 at 20:37

If you want a laugh to end this lovely Bank holiday Monday, cast your eyes over this stunning piece of journalism. Pay particular attention to the photograph captions.

Indeed, journalism of the highest class. :rolleyes:

Is it still humans that put these stories together? :confused:

Cheers

Paul

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