China to build 3 Aircraft Carriers

Okay, continuing to bite my tongue. Further illustrations of the pointlessness of this. Get

Yes, get over it indeed… We need to get
over the “tinted glasses people have of others”… It has to start
somewhere and where better than rickusn :p …

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Actually Edisonone you are the one who started with the gratutitous insults.

Evidence?! Evidence please?! Please please please :p ?!!!

Anyway, by shufflling “that blame card around” won’t help you
salvage the damage you’ve already done to yourself and to your charactor :p . After all,
you were the one that came out with THAT SILLINESS. Not me!

(Maybe this will serve as a learning experience to one and
all that insults and uncool languages is not the way to go because, if
used indiscriminately – silly outburses can back fire on you.)

While at the same time making outlandish false statements .

Again, evidence please! Or, at the very least clairifications as
to the term, or the word, “outlandish” and what you mean by that. I mean
what did I say which was so “outlandish” that it would cause people to resorts
to “violence almost” to try and get their messages across :p ???

I’m baffled! I’m scratching me head here… I’m at a lost for words… :p…

When asked for any factual
documentation to back those statements up your the
one who got angry and still are.

Wow!!! I got angry because you asked for facts?
How did you ever arrived at such a notion? I mean in what way did I
blow my cool so to speak? Or, could it maybe simply be that I wasn’t speaking your
language and you weren’t too pleased with it?

Facts: Even SOC acknowledged the conspiracy theory (Yes! I said
acknowledged. I didn’t say he was in agreement with it. And yes, it was
but only a theory and theories gets debated and not taken up with bitterness.)
and he added his two cents to it. He sure as the heck didn’t revert to
insults and harsh languages as you did to try to get his point across.

Now that is the difference between a person who commands
respect (SOC’s way) and someone who don’t even know what he or she
is doing (Oh well… You know what I’m refering here I’m sure).

I mean honestly, have you even just for once mentioned that there indeed
is a conspiracy theory around and that I wasn’t the one that created it? No! Not even
once. All I got was was harsh words packed with bitterness and rejection.

The very bottom line and please admit it: It’s only alright for
you to throw all kinds of a acusation Beijing’s way. But, if it’s the other way around,
it’s like the end of the world to you isn’t it? Now why is that?

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Okay, continuing to bite my tongue. Further illustrations of the pointlessness of this. Get over it. Personally I find any genuine news on the PLAN interesting hence why I keep coming by here. Still if this goes on much longer my wife is going to come looking for whoever is responsible for that missing half inch.

Daniel

Actually Edisonone you are the one who started with the gratutitous insults.

While at the same time making outlandish false statements .

When asked for any factual documentation to back those statements up your the one who got angry and still are.

Dont dish if you cant take would be my advice.

This still has nothing to do with Chinese carriers people. Perhaps a little moderator action called for. Lock the thread for a few days and let it settle. The whole China/Taiwan thing has been done more time than I care to remember, no one will be changing their opinions based on what goes on here.

Daniel

Blame it on losers (shameless and inconsiderate Islanders)
who wanted their idiotic plights be heard — in the international arena (AFM) :p
instead of doing it like grown ups at their very own back yards…

LOL you get goofier and goofier by the second.

Mr. rickusn,

Is that how you solve a problems :p? By insulting people, “at will,”
if you can’t get your way? Hey! I agree that that indeed is one way of
getting around debates and arguments that one just can’t have control of. I bet
you must have plenty and plenty of experience in that specialty.

Mr, rickusn, Let me see some real stuff!!!
Not insults! And I might give your views and your
opinions some thought and not before that.

Man!!! The desperation :p … I wonder who is more
the goofier one? The one that went over the top for nothing? Or the
one who was merely stating his own personal opinion?

I for one would never insult people as
liberally and as liesurely as you do – NOT EVEN IF I’M LOSING
IN MY DEBATES AND IN MY ARGUMENTS :p !!!

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This still has nothing to do with Chinese carriers people. Perhaps a little moderator action called for. Lock the thread for a few days and let it settle. The whole China/Taiwan thing has been done more time than I care to remember, no one will be changing their opinions based on what goes on here.

Daniel

“The legal position is that Taiwan writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
Chinese, cuisines in Chinese, “THINKS CHINESE”, sings songs and lyerics in Chinese, operas in Chinese,
fools around the Chinese way, and plays mahjong just like the Chinese…

Now, can you wash all of that clean??? “

So, according to your position, there is so such thing as the United States of America… just a “renegade provence of England”!

After all, an “American” writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
English, cuisines mostly in English derived foods, “THINKS ENGLISH”, sings songs and lyirics in English, operas in English (or Latin),
fools around the “American” version of the English way, and plays tennis, golf, rugby (yes, we have organized University-level rugby), and football (we call it soccer) just like the English…

We must not be a legal country either!

As for why Taiwanese passports still have the name “China” on them, if they removed it, that could meet the definition in the PRC law of “claiming independence”… which could trigger military action by the PRC to forcibly prevent such actions!!

The difference is US succesfully fight the British and Taiwan hasn’t China lie the red line across the sand dare the Taiwanese to cross it !

“Early retirement” at the age of 74.

LOL you get goofier and goofier by the second. LOL

And you still have not answered any questions. LOL

Ive seen losers in my day but you have just went to the head of the list. LOL

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With his status and the respect he commands in the news media?
I doubt if that’s enough for him to call it a day. I mean rightly or wrongly, if
what they can do to this once upon a time much reveered fella, Scott Ritters, you can
bet they can do to anyone and everyone — Dan Rather inclusive.

Besides, I do not see it as a conspiracy. I see it more
as part of a ruthless game that people must play in politics
in order to survive. And, in politics, the best man wins.

Truthfully, if I was into politics
and if I was targetted as El Presidente was, I’d use all
the tricks in the book as well.

Clairifications: I’m not pro-anyone here.
Dan Rather is used here merely as an argument because of
the criticism people here have for Beijing.

I felt that the singling out of Beijing was unfair to say the least.

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I mean do you really and seriously believe that Rathers took early retirement

Did Bush cause Rather’s retirement? Probably, but not the way conspiracy theorists and liberals would have you believe. Dan Rather jumped all over the “documents” about Bush in the Texas ANG, didn’t check anything that much, etc, and went live (how can we have an unbiased media when like 90% of the media votes liberal). OOPS. It was the story that killed his career, that one would have been tough to recover from, and remember, TV, even the news, is all about ratings.

So, according to your position, there is so such thing as the United States of America… just a “renegade provence of England”!

Well… I must admit… You indeed are putting
me into a bit of delemma here. A difficult situation even.
Now what shall I do or how shall I handle this :p.

Languages and customs aside, the Chinese is not as notorious of a species
because, if they are, the whole of eastern Europe would’ve qualify a speciment you had
tried to utilized in your argument (based on Yuan China and other eras of China’s past) . But,
they have never ever harboured anything remotely like that in their minds.

So don’t even try that one on me because it won’t work.

Think: Of all Islands in the world, why do you suppose the Chinese
nationalist at the time were able to liesurely and comfortably been able to
“RETREAT TO” and not known as “INVADE” the Island, tanks and all, and were permitted to fly the
nationalist flag there? WHY? That’s because it is Chinese domain and…

United States, now what is it? A province of England or what???

Apples are apples and oranges are oranges. You are trying much much
too hard here and you are swerving totally off course. Chinese Islands is not
the United States — Chinese Islands are simply that — Chinese Islands!

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The only ignorant person here is you.

My my… How disgruntled can people get when they
can’t have things their way… I mean it’s almost a spoiled and crancky
brat, a baby, crying over milk or crying for attention…

You can prove your not by answering my questions.

But I do answers questions. However, I tend to do it my way… with honesty
and reasoning and not with outragous demands, bitchings, or curses. But, I will have to admit —
not everyone in this world is bliss with the gift of being able to reason.

LOL “anchor for life” What world do you live in?

I mean do you really and seriously believe that Rathers took early retirement :p ?
If so, then you are even much more naive than I thought. Mr. Rove is a smart cooky
and smart cookies have a tendency of hatching smart tricks. Comprended?

Do you realize people in America with his type of money(and many with much less) often begin retiring in their mid 50’s? And almost everyone is retired by the age of 65.

Have you ever heard of Barb Barker the fella that hosts that day time
game show “The Price Is Right??? What do you think his worth is? And, is he stupid
or what? I mean the guy can hardly stand up anymore but, last I clicked the TV screen, he is
still as canniving as ever towards those sexy Ladies of “The Price Is Right” :p…

Or, let’s simply put it this way… Celebrities,
be they actors, TV hosts, news anchors, whatever — they don’t die — like
soldiers – they too slowly slowy fades away …

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[THREADJACK]
Last time I was in the queue at Narita immigration I was surrounded by Chinese tourists. Obvious that there were two types (different clothes, accessories, mannerisms, faces – as easy as spotting northern mainlanders in Hong Kong, which I found in the mid-90s was very easy indeed). Surreptitious peeks at passports held in hands revealed the secret – mainlanders & Taiwanese.
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Reference: Passports

Strangely enough: aren’t both of them :p Chinese passports :p ?

And alternatively, while there might be distinct taste to the politics of it,
a different twist even, isn’t it true however that the symbolizms of the high noon sun
in the colors of blue and white in a field of Chinese red exactly the very same field of Chinese red
that proudly and enthusiastically sports the five bright and shinny stars?

“In one of the crossings between the US and Canada (Peace Arch I think),
engraved “PROUDLY” in stone is this verse: “Siblings of The Same Motherhood” (correct
me if not exactly how it goes people). God!!! How I envy the awesome meanings those words
convey… Now, where is this very same energy and this enthusiasm?”

I’m sad… I’m sad and I feel sorry for all those slow-ones in us!!!
Because, we have them too in Canuckland. They call themselves Block Qebecors. And, the
late Pier Elliot Trudeau said it best with the fingers he gave them.

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[QUOTE=Bager1968
So, according to your position, there is so such thing as the United States of America… just a “renegade provence of England”!

After all, an “American” writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
English, cuisines mostly in English derived foods, “THINKS ENGLISH”, sings songs and lyirics in English, operas in English (or Latin),
fools around the “American” version of the English way, and plays tennis, golf, rugby (yes, we have organized University-level rugby), and football (we call it soccer) just like the English…
[/QUOTE]
There are major difference between US and Taiwan. Taiwan is just 100 miles from mainland China, and as much as Taiwanese tried to claim they are different from Chinese. They are not, most of tawianese come from province of Fujian.

As for why Taiwanese passports still have the name “China” on them, if they removed it, that could meet the definition in the PRC law of “claiming independence”… which could trigger military action by the PRC to forcibly prevent such actions!!

The problem is for last sixty or so years, Taiwan still claim all of China. Taiwan even want to invade mainland China up until 80. More Taiwanese favored the unification in ten years ago, it is only recentt years there are more Taiwanese want to be independent. The Taiwan situation is very complicate, but Taiwan do not have much legal basic for claiming they are not part of China.

“The legal position is that Taiwan writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
Chinese, cuisines in Chinese, “THINKS CHINESE”, sings songs and lyerics in Chinese, operas in Chinese,
fools around the Chinese way, and plays mahjong just like the Chinese…

Now, can you wash all of that clean??? “

So, according to your position, there is so such thing as the United States of America… just a “renegade provence of England”!

After all, an “American” writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
English, cuisines mostly in English derived foods, “THINKS ENGLISH”, sings songs and lyirics in English, operas in English (or Latin),
fools around the “American” version of the English way, and plays tennis, golf, rugby (yes, we have organized University-level rugby), and football (we call it soccer) just like the English…

We must not be a legal country either!

As for why Taiwanese passports still have the name “China” on them, if they removed it, that could meet the definition in the PRC law of “claiming independence”… which could trigger military action by the PRC to forcibly prevent such actions!!

“You’ve got to be kiddin’??? Or else – you must be equally as ignorant
as the other guy.”

The only ignorant person here is you.

You can prove your not by answering my questions.

Which you havent, cant and wont.

“Socialism with a uinque and distinct characteristic, shall we say — a characteristic where
Dan Rathers gets to anchor for life maybe instead of being disgraced ???”

LOL “anchor for life” What world do you live in?

Do you realize people in America with his type of money(and many with much less) often begin retiring in their mid 50’s? And almost everyone is retired by the age of 65.

And the rest of it is too laughable to even comment on.

“He (Rathers) got canned for the air national guard thingy
and, likely for having interviewed Heussein the dictator and for showing empathy
for the guy. The Hanoi Jane syndrome… Oh you know what I mean!!!”

I dont think anyone in the universe including you knows what you mean.

Show proof of your contentions and Ill be persuaded.

Ignorant? Take a look in a mirror for the definition. LOL

If your trying to say that there has been a change
of government in China and that it is no longer a Communist government
you will have to supply me with factual documentation.

I’d like to see it as “the coming to the ages” when it’s to do with the
present system and not an as outright change of government as you had quoted.
Socialism with a uinque and distinct characteristic, shall we say — a characteristic where
Dan Rathers gets to anchor for life maybe instead of being disgraced ???

Dan Rather will be 75 years old this year and retired a year ago.

You’ve got to be kiddin’??? Or else – you must be equally as ignorant
as the other guy. He (Rathers) got canned for the air national guard thingy
and, likely for having interviewed Heussein the dictator and for showing empathy
for the guy. The Hanoi Jane syndrome… Oh you know what I mean!!!

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Hi kyli

You’re making the same mistake as Golden. I wasn’t talking about people, I was coming from a legal position over how countries as a whole accept Taiwanese passports as official documents.

The legal position is that Taiwan writes, reads, speaks, and listens in
Chinese, cuisines in Chinese, “THINKS CHINESE”, sings songs and lyerics in Chinese, operas in Chinese,
fools around the Chinese way, and plays mahjong just like the Chinese…

Now, can you wash all of that clean???

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That sounds like the view the Nazis took over nationality.

Nazis:

And, what do you have against the Nazis???

I mean what do you know about the Nazis? Honestly, I wouldn’t go the
route because, like you, I don’t have any first hand knowledge whatsoever about them,
with the exception of what I had heard, read, or was told about them.

Matter of factly, if the Nazis are nationalist fanatics, they are still no
match for that of Imperial Japan so why not use Japan as an example instead? Why Germany?
I mean Japan would’ve make it much easier for people to relate here .

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