Chinese HN cruise missile is attacking(picture)

More target drones….

What about the purchase of X-55 from Ukraine? 😎

Much more likely.

Not without a reportable Chinese purchase of such.

What about the purchase of X-55 from Ukraine? 😎

The Kh-65SE is a subsonic antiship weapon modeled from the Kh-55 series, so it is inside the realm of possibility.

Not without a reportable Chinese purchase of such.

let it be either a testing site or a production site.

but it looks some mediavel european site for making CATIPULT.

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If you really cannot tell what is a production and what is a testing facility, then your opinion can be regarded as totally useless.

i relly appretiate your patriotism… hats of to you…

what has that got to do with anything?

its not about cleaniness…
i have a bit experiance abt workin in test facility… i know that there is no scope for things like cleaniness… but the test plaform of a missile need to have some safety measures… that need to be taken care of.

well what makes you think its a live missile? since we have no point for reference, all they could be doing is testing an empty airframe.

anyways, even if this was a live weapon, what kind of extra saftey measures were you thinking about?

what these containers doing so close to that missile…
i have seen the videos of the chinese test facilities of the other misssiles…

but sorry to say… none of them matches that.
above all this.. if it is really a authentic pic… they need to have a quiet a bit safety measures in place.

what containers are you talking about? i cant seem to see them. :confused:

also, it might be interestng for you to post the pics of some of the other missile testing facilaties you have seen for reference and comparison.

i relly appretiate your patriotism… hats of to you…

its not about cleaniness…
i have a bit experiance abt workin in test facility… i know that there is no scope for things like cleaniness… but the test plaform of a missile need to have some safety measures… that need to be taken care of.

what these containers doing so close to that missile…
i have seen the videos of the chinese test facilities of the other misssiles…

but sorry to say… none of them matches that.
above all this.. if it is really a authentic pic… they need to have a quiet a bit safety measures in place.

let it be either a testing site or a production site.

but it looks some mediavel european site for making CATIPULT.

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come on, no need to be so dramatic. if you’ve seen the inside of research institutes (at least engineering related as is the case here) you’d konw that that is not a very uncharateristic picture, be it chinese or western, or british to be exact since i cant speak for places i havent seen first hand (although video from documentries seem to suggest that even factories where LGBs and satelite guided bombs are made are not so much better in the US).

this is either a test area or the development zone. so all the delicate electronics would have been in their usage states (hence no need for super cleaniness). and since we are talking about feild deployable weapons here, a little dust here and there will not make any difference or the thing is not design right to begin with.

also, if you are an engineer working very long hours to meet tight scheduals (as is almost always the case in such matters), the tidiness of the work area will inevitably slip (to within a certain degree of course) and neatness comes a distant second to practicality (hence all the cables running everywhere).

with sensitive military projects such as this, the situation is often confounded by the fact that there are often no dedicated cleaning staff for obvious reasons.

i think you might be getting yourself mixed up about the differing standards between research/testing area and assembly/production lines, and maybe also about the required level of cleaniness between different feilds (heavy engineering as the case here, verses electronics for example).

The problem with Xinhua is that it is the CCP’s official mouthpiece. So they’re only going to tell you what they want you to hear. For example they may write articles about how “likely” it is that aircraft carriers will be built for the PLAN in the near future, despite the fact that the CMC could still be at logger-heads over just whether the PLAN should want them at all.

Xinhua would never write anything like that, or anything related to future plans and policies regarding the military. It would be a great feat to get Xinhua to just admit anything on the military. Xinhua is almost a zero source of information when it comes to the military.

let it be either a testing site or a production site.

but it looks some mediavel european site for making CATIPULT.

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I don’t think it’s a production facility, looks like structural testing to me.

the pic PLAWOLF had posted of the production site of the missile is really shocking…

if that is really authentic… then i really doubt about the quality and efficiency of the missile… its really a big question mark…

The problem with Xinhua is that it is the CCP’s official mouthpiece. So they’re only going to tell you what they want you to hear. For example they may write articles about how “likely” it is that aircraft carriers will be built for the PLAN in the near future, despite the fact that the CMC could still be at logger-heads over just whether the PLAN should want them at all.

dont know much about xinhua do you? :rolleyes:

just because its the CCP’s mouthpiece doesnt mean everything its prints is written, edited and published by hu jin tao. it operates exactly the same as any other news network, with individual REPORTERS writing the story and drawing their own conclusions. they are only required to toe the party line on a small (and steadily declining) number of subjects. the reporters have a great deal (could be classed as ‘remarkable’ based on the level of reporting freedom some in the west thinks they have) of freedom in what they write in other topics, with previous ‘no-go’ areas like corruption and (limited) criticism of the chinese government and officals become ever more common.

your example of aircraft carriers is a good example of the diversity of oppinion within the chinese media. there are people working in the news industry that are either in favour or against carriers, and like in the west, they make out their cases in the papers.

it is not some co-ordinated effort to try and shift public oppinion (since the chinese government itself is not decided which is its best course of action to take), and it is not uncommon to find articals and commentaries in different, or even the same paper making out opposite cases. its just jurnolists using the freedoms they have to do what jurnolists are supposed to do.

but anyways, getting back on topic.

foreign military power is NOT a tabboo subject in china, and there is a great deal of fairly accurate (probably more so then many western documentries) reporting.

even if something is not given precious air-time or space in the papers, the information is still easily accessible to those that wish to learn, and there are many very detailed and accurate military mags (although there are a depressingly large number of totally unreliable military mags in china, these are run by individuals out to make a quick buck) and websites where someone living in china can find out all they want about foreign weapons systems (and those chinese systems that have been declassified).

so your orignial remark was just a cheap shot base more on your own personal preceptions and prejedouses then real facts. quit trying to wriggle your way out of it and face up to your words like a man. :rolleyes:

Don’t you have any sense of humour? :p

you must have a weird sense of humour then. :diablo:

Not an actual missile……..But a Tomahawk Target Drone..

Xinhua is a good source of information about chinese hardware.

The problem with Xinhua is that it is the CCP’s official mouthpiece. So they’re only going to tell you what they want you to hear. For example they may write articles about how “likely” it is that aircraft carriers will be built for the PLAN in the near future, despite the fact that the CMC could still be at logger-heads over just whether the PLAN should want them at all.

what a pathetic and lame attempt at flaming. :rolleyes:

Don’t you have any sense of humour? :p

It’s also because there are a lot of nationalistic Chinese kids that think they’re cool by setting up military websites, despite the fact they rely on Xinhua for their information and wouldn’t know an American missile if it parked itself outside their appartment :diablo:

Xinhua is a good source of information about chinese hardware.

It’s also because there are a lot of nationalistic Chinese kids that think they’re cool by setting up military websites, despite the fact they rely on Xinhua for their information and wouldn’t know an American missile if it parked itself outside their appartment :diablo:

what a pathetic and lame attempt at flaming. :rolleyes:

go ask ordinary american kids to identify modern fighters and the vast majority will probably think the likes of the Su27, Mig29, typhoon and rafale etc are all of american design. it would be the same story if you asked them to try and name modern missiles.

and guess what, repeat this experiment in any nation and the results would be effectively the same.

so how about we stop trying to draw conclusions where there is none and get on with something more constructive. :rolleyes:

it’s a quite succesful disinformation technique. It curbs also serious attempts to evaluate the magnitude of chinese military power.

It’s also because there are a lot of nationalistic Chinese kids that think they’re cool by setting up military websites, despite the fact they rely on Xinhua for their information and wouldn’t know an American missile if it parked itself outside their appartment :diablo: