Cilla Black passes.

Is it just me that found Cilla a rather winey and not very interesting Liverpudlian?

Practically a documentary.

Not claiming it’s like leafy Surrey, Charlie 😉

If it’s the North give me Yorshire or the North East anytime!! Haven’t spent much time in leafy Surrey, so I’ll take your word for it!;)2

Harry Enfield is somehow lauded for reiterating the same four sketches across multiple seasons. I don’t get it. :apologetic:

Practically a documentary.

Not claiming it’s like leafy Surrey, Charlie 😉

I have found once or twice in situations that looked as if they might turn physical, cranking up the Liverpool accent did no harm.

Moggy

Ah, I know what you mean……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STIvNjWobzA

For me it was the hyperbole. I know you have to say good stuff after someone karks it, but much of it was as over-the-top as the ‘Princess of our Hearts’ bollox for Diana Spencer.

Scousers’ reputation? We just laugh along. No point in being offended. Anyway, compared with “It’s compulsory to be gay” in Manchester and “Thick as .. ” for the Brummies, it’s not that bad a stereotype.

I have found once or twice in situations that looked as if they might turn physical, cranking up the Liverpool accent did no harm.

Moggy

Totally agree Meddle. And Beermat, I spent about 5 years working in Liverpool, on and off – more on than off – and would just say that my experience is somewhat different from yours!! Was never happier when I didn’t have to return….so we each have our own experiences.

And never forget that Cliff said she was probably the greatest TV presenter of all time!! Gawd help us!!

I agree with your last paragraph. As a Scot I’m used to the usual stereotypes about us as well. Our cheapness (probably born in part out of Presbyterian attitudes), our penchant for alcohol, our anti-English sentiments, our overly simplistic Braveheart-tinged national pride which is indicative of our general low IQ (often touted by the UKIP crowd, make of that what you will).

Having said all that, overly sentimental fair-weather scousers (who all grew up on ‘Scotty’ road) who spent most of their adult lives avoiding the place unless it was for their own strategic advantage, come across as disingenuous idiots and perhaps some crude stereotypes offset the farce slightly. I know one or two people who took the death of Cilla quite badly, though none of them ever met her or knew her personally in any way. As I said before, this post-Diana form of overly public mourning seems like distasteful window dressing to me. Ms Black’s family are entitled to grieve, in private, but using her death to cement her reputation as a true scouser, as the tabloids have done, seems at best misguided and at worst woefully short sighted. I’m surprised that the media is so willing to overlook Cilla’s famous, and widely reported, attitude and personality offstage for the sake of peddling a ‘rags to riches, backstreet Liverpudlian done good’ narrative. Didn’t they do the same for Savile? Different scale of a problem for sure, but that saccharine one-sided coverage of the death of somebody with 1) a bad reputation and 2) a sycophantic following of people who never met her would perhaps call for some slightly more even-handed journalism, no? Why wipe the slate clean and carp on at length about Sir Cliff’s vocal performance?

Woah, hang on. Calm down..

Seriously, there’s nothing to suggest that Scousers are any more prone to robberies than anyone else, it’s all just lazy shorthand. I am not a Scouser, amateur or professional. But I spent my formative adult years there (18 – 30), right in the ‘thick of it’ (Edge Lane/Kensington for those like Moggy who actually know the City rather than the stereotype).

I learned a lot there about honesty and responsibility when the chips are down (as they were) and who possessed those traits, and who didn’t. I do get a bit disgruntled by the unthinking ‘all scousers are criminals’ nonsense, whether intended to raise a laugh, or not – not having a go, it’s easy to do, and I am guilty of stereotyping others as well.

Re. Macca not being there.. I understand (admittedly from gossip) that in fact Macca was not exactly the lady’s biggest fan, for a lot of the reasons that other people who have met her have mentioned. And yes, that ‘Accent’.. what on earth was that? You’d think, being musical, that she’d have an ‘ear’ – especially for the accent she grew up with!

It is sad that others feel sad, but.. there was a strand of entertainers who worked out, in simpler times, that sincerity was everything. If you could fake that, you had it made.

There was indeed a hole discovered in the perimeter fence of Cilla’s gaff, and as such Buckinghamshire police kept a close watch over the property.

http://news.sky.com/story/1535931/burglars-target-the-home-of-cilla-black

Sad to see fellow professional scousers Ringo and Macca couldn’t make the funeral. Maybe they couldn’t find Liverpool on the map? Or perhaps they were helping themselves to Cilla’s stereo? :highly_amused:

The thing is though Alan, what Meddle has stated is a fact!!
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Love it 🙂

As seen elsewhere…

Buckinghamshire Police have thwarted a plot to rob Cilla Black’s house whilst her funeral was underway.

It seems a shame that Buckinghamshire Police aren’t more tolerant towards these scouser traditions.

And Jimmy Tarbuck and Paul O’Grady and more of the Liverpool mafia, no doubt.

Sir Cliff Richard: “”She took the country by storm because she became our greatest TV presenter, probably of all time.” Really?

😀

Haven’t the family suffered enough?

I assume you mean having Cliff sing at the funeral ?

Haven’t the family suffered enough?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33991635

Moggy

Much like the late Ms White I can’t revert to a recognisable Liverpolitan accent to save my life.

I guess I have just become a citiless wanderer.

Moggy

As an expatriate scouser…

Does that make you a Professional Scouser, ala Tarbuck, or a Wool? 😀

They’re not pilots for God’s sake !

A truer note never spoken! :applause: