(This partners DC-2 thread). “Civil” means, here: assembly (begun) to civil order. (amended 3/1/13 to #5)
Key Dates: 27/4/41: Greece occupied by Germany; 1/6/41: Crete; 15/6/41: Croatia joins Axis;
30/5/41 Commonwealth Forces occupy “Axis-influenced” Iraq; 14/7/41, Vichy Lebanon/Syria;
14/6/41: FDR freezes assets of Germany/Italy; 26/7/41: of Japan;
22/6/41: Barbarossa, Axis invasion of USSR; US a/c in Aid from 24/6/41, L/L from 11/41;
9/7/41: Impressment, new DC-3s (c/n 4116/8) for a Lend/Lease recipient (UK, unable to buy at market);
15/7/41: $20Mn. by L/L for PAA Air Ferries Inc. to deliver freight & a/c, Brazil-UK-in-Africa;
1/8/41: US oil embargo on “Aggressor States” (=Japan+Axis): proximate cause of WW2/Pacific;
14/8/41: Atlantic Charter. US now in full steam as the arsenal of democracy;
25/8/41: Anglo-Soviet invasion of “Axis-influenced” Iran;
24/8/42: Brazil declares War on Germany/Italy. German equity, such as in Cruzeiro do Sul sequestered.
JDR Rawlings, C/S & S. Squadrons has: 31 Sqdn/Lahore/Palam, 4/42-4/43 and cites LR230/D, LR231/E, LR233/H, LR235/J, MA925, MA943; 117 Sqd/Bilbeis/C.Benito 4-9/42: N33653.JB has 24 Sqd/Hendon, 194 Sqd/Palam, 2-9/43 and 267 Sqd/ 8-11/42,Bilbeis,11/42-4/43, ElAdem.
RAF: Bought by BPC: None (no willing sellers).
Lend/Lease ex-PAA-Africa:
C/n 4114 NC33642 UA(DST); USG 10/6/41 as NC; 3/10/41 PAA-Af ; 4/3/42 267 Sqd. as NC; . (14/3/42 C-48C 42-38259); 5/43 USAAF/Africa as NC; 3/10/43, United A/L. N22MA
4116 (NC33653 AA, ntu: ) US Govt. for PAA-Af. 9/7/41; @Accra 24/10/41; (14/3/42 C-49H . 42-38250) 7/5/42 117 Sqd/27/5/42 31 Sqd. as NC; 19/9/42 MA925 AHQ/India Comms.Flt.; . 1943 Indian National A/L (11/5/45 as VT-ATB); 1952 Govt. of India. scr. 4/53
4118 NC33655(AA);9/7/41 USG/PAA-Af. 9/7/41; @Accra 24/10/41;(14/3/42 C-49H 42-38251) . 4/3/42 RAF; (7/42 G-AGEN); 9/8/42 31 Sqd.; 25/9/42 MA943, 29/4/43 VT-ARI; scr.5/54
1915 NC16094 EA;10/41 PAA-Af; (14/3/42 C-49G 42-38252); 15/4/42 117/31 Sqd as NC; . LR231/E 31 Sqd W/O 6/5/42
4130 NC33675 PCA; 17/11/41 PAA-Af.,@Accra 24/10/41(14/3/42 C-49H 42-38253); 4/3/42 . . 31 Sqd as NC (LR232) cr. 4/11/42
1923 NC17313 TW DST; 10/41 PAA-Af; 1/4/42 LR233 31 Sqd/H (14/3/42 C-49D 42-38256), . cr. 28/10/42
1949 NC16082 EA;10/41 PAA-Af;(14/3/42 C-49G 42-38255);1/4/42 LR235 31 Sqd/J cr.4/9/43
3276 NC25623 NW; 10/41 PAA-Af; 4/3/42 RAF as NC (14/3/42 C-48C 42-38258)
1993 NC18117 PA; PAA-Af; (14/3/42 C-49H 42-38254) 1/4/42 31 Sqd. as NC, cr.19/4/42
Lend/Lease ex-US:
3275 NC1000/41831 Swiftflite; USAAC 24/9/41; C-52D 42-6505 4/3/42-9/43 267 Sq. as NC . (C-48C 42-38260), 3/45 USAAF; NC41831; PK-ZDB; PK-WWL, scr.
4173 NC30004 DST(31/12/41 C-68 42-14297);PA 11/1/42;19/4/42 LR230 31 Sq/D.W/O 6/5/42
4851 NC25623; (C-48C 42-38258); 4/3/42 (C-53 41-20081) LR234 24 Sqd; 6/43 VT-ARH,cr.
4930 NC6252M; 42-6478 C-53; TJ167, 24 Sqd.; G-AJLC; 2/47 6252M scr.
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(Not civil DC-3s but so reported:4653 41-38625 new-build C-47, HK993 Dakota I, VT-CLE cr.;
new-build C-53 Skytrooper as Dakota IV: 4931 42-6479 FJ709 117 Sqd 5-9/42/MA928;
4933 42-6481 FJ710 117 Sqd 5-9/42/MA929;
4954 42-6502 FJ711 117 Sqd 5-9/42, SAAF;
42-47371 FJ712;
TJ170, 24 Sqd.;
4909 42-6457 PAA-Af.; HK867²; to PAA;
4907 42-6455, PAA-Af.; RAF 4/42 as 42-6455; to PAA, cr.25/3/45)
Escapees from KLM:
1590 PH-ALI; G-AGBB BOAC, W/O 1/6/43
1939 PH-ALR; G-AGBC BOAC, cr.21/9/40
1980 PH-ARB; G-AGBD BOAC; Neths.Govt/AT NL202; YU-ABM; 4W-ABH, scr.Aden 1979
(Fokker-re-assembled) 2022 PH-ARZ; G-AGBE BOAC; Neths.Govt.AT NL201, cr.18/11/46
(Fokker-re-assembled) 2019 PH-ARW; G-AGBI, W/O 24/11/40
Escapees from SABENA:
(Fokker-re-assembled) 2093 OO-AUH; 24 Sqd, 5-6/40; captured; MM60520; I-EMOS; D-ATZP, presumed scr.
(Fokker-re-assembled) 2094 OO-AUI; 24 Sqd, 5-6/40; captured; presumed scr.
(?) Built fr. Spares: Dakota I HK893² {AM Park’s a/c!}( HK893¹: ex-USSR A-20C 41-19345)
RAAF:
Escapees from KNILM:
1941 PH-ALT, PK-ALT; (41-1941) VHCXD (C-49H 44-83228), cr. 5/5/45
1944 PH-ALW, PK-ALW; (41-1944) VHCXE, VHCXL (C-49H 44-83229), VH-ANR; preserved Caloundra Mus.QLD
Impressed by RAAF (as DC-3):
2002 VH-UZJ; 9/39 RAAF A30-1; 6/40 ANA VH-UZJ ; cr. 29/12/48
2003 VH-UZK; 9/39 RAAF A30-2; 13/2/40 ANA VH-UZK cr. 8/11/48
2029 VH-ABR; 9/39 RAAF A30-3; 17/5/40 ANA VH-ABR (preserved)
2030 VH-ACB; 9/39 RAAF A30-4; 24/5/40 ANA VH-ACB cr. 19/1/43.
Lend/Lease to RAAF (operated by ANA):
3270 (NC1945 TW) 6/2/41 C-49 41-7685; 4/9/42 VH-CDA, ADAT. cr.12/44
3272 (NC1947 TW) 23/2/41 C-49 41-7687; 12/41 VH-CDB, ADAT; 24/6/43 36 Sqd; 23/2/44 . ANA; 1/46 VH-ANN, ANA.
3282 (NC28345 DL) 23/2/41 C-49A 41-7690; 9/42 VH-CDC, ADAT;24/6/43 36 Sqd; 27/4/44 . ANA, cr.13/11/45
4094 (NC28386 EA) 22/2/41 C-49B 41-7691;6/9/42 VH-CDD, ADAT; 4/5/43 36 Sqd; 29/4/44
ANA; 22/5/46 VH-ANO; PK-PIB; XU-FAI; scr.1975
4096 (NC28388 EA) 2/2/41 C-49B 41-7693; 4/9/42 VH-CDE, ADAT; 3/7/43 36 Sqd; 25/4/44
ANA; 22/5/46 VH-ANP, scr.1969
3297 (NC1953 TW) 22/3/41 C-49 41-7694;4/9/42 VH-CDF, ADAT, cr.24/4/43{?as VH-CDH)
3271 (NC1946 TW) 8/2/41 C-49 41-7686; 1/43 VH-CDG, ADAT; 20/1/44 36 Sqd; 24/4/44
ANA; 5/46 VH-ANQ, scr.11/69
4083 (NC25697 PCA) 22/7/41 C-50C 41-7695; VH-CDI, ADAT cr. 12/11/42
4120 (NC33657 AA) 31/7/41 C-50 41-7698; 28/6/643 VH-CDJ, 36 Sqd; 16/5/44 Guinea A/W; . 12/5/46 VH-ANH. Preserved
4119 (NC33656 AA) 24/7/41 C-50 41-7697; 10/42 VH-CDK; 27/5/43 36Sqd; 16/5/44 ANA;
22/5/46 VH-ANI; ZK-BKE; XW-TDD; XW-TFI, cr.15/12/74
By: longshot - 21st January 2013 at 14:22
A small shot of MA925 with 31sqdn RAF out east….a pre-war civil DC-3 with RH pax door and Wright Cyclone engines
and 2 shots of KLM’s DC-3 registered with KNILM as PK-ALW which kept up the service to the Far East from Lydda Palestine where the photos were taken
By: longshot - 3rd January 2013 at 23:08
Pan Am DC-3s at Natal, September 1941
NC25623
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/27590213896c58d9.html
DC-3s NC25623 NC33642 and DC-2 U.S.10 in
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/cc650ce4711254be.html which Hart Preston shot as the centre third of a panorama of PAA Ferries flight3 from the old Air France hangar at Natal
By: longshot - 3rd January 2013 at 14:08
The 2 Sabena DC-3s had served Shoreham during the phoney war in neutrality orange and manage to escape when Belgium was invaded. Painted in camouflage but still marked OO-AUH and OO-AUI they served 24 sqdn RAF during the Fall of France. .Some sources record OO-AUI(2094) as having been shot down, several photos suggest it was captured only slightly damaged after a forced landing so may have been destroyed on the ground? OO-AUH(2093) assisted the French evacuation to Algiers where it was acquired from the Vichy French by Italy as I-EMOS, MM60520 and later to Germany as D-ATZP, so served with the British, French, Italians and Germans.
OO-AUH at Shoreham early 1940, two civil registered export Blenheims at rear
OO-AUI N.France June 1940?
By: ericmunk - 31st December 2012 at 10:35
Again, the NL-series were NOT Netherlands AF, but Netherlands Government Air Transport.
PH-ARB became G-AGBD, NL-202, PH-TBD, G-AGBD, YU-ABM, 4W-ABH and was wfu Aden in 1979 and broken up.
PH-ARZ became G-AGBE, then NL-201, PH-TBE and was w/o 18Nov1946 in France.
VHCXD was w/o Higgins Field QNLD 5May1945, the wreck is still there.
By: mark_pilkington - 31st December 2012 at 03:09
RAAF:
Escapees from KNILM:
1941 PH-ALT, PK-ALT; (41-1941) VHCXD (C-49H 44-83228)
1944 PH-ALW, PK-ALW; (41-1944) VHCXE, VHCXL (C-49H 44-83229), VH-ANRImpressed by RAAF (as DC-3):
2002 VH-UZJ; 9/39 RAAF A30-1; 6/40 ANA VH-UZJ ; cr. 29/12/48
2003 VH-UZK; 9/39 RAAF A30-2; 13/2/40 ANA VH-UZK cr. 8/11/48
2029 VH-ABR; 9/39 RAAF A30-3; 17/5/40 ANA VH-ABR (preserved)
2030 VH-ACB; 9/39 RAAF A30-4; 24/5/40 ANA VH-ACB cr. 19/1/43.Lend/Lease to RAAF (operated by ANA):
3270 (NC1945 TW) 6/2/41 C-49 41-7685; 4/9/42 VH-CDA, ADAT. cr.12/44
3272 (NC1947 TW) 23/2/41 C-49 41-7687; 12/41 VH-CDB, ADAT; 24/6/43 36 Sqd; 23/2/44 . ANA; 1/46 VH-ANN, ANA. Preserved.
3282 (NC28345 DL) 23/2/41 C-49A 41-7690; 9/42 VH-CDC, ADAT;24/6/43 36 Sqd; 27/4/44 . ANA, cr.13/11/45
4094 (NC28386 EA) 22/2/41 C-49B 41-7691;6/9/42 VH-CDD, ADAT; 4/5/43 36 Sqd; 29/4/44
ANA; 22/5/46 VH-ANO; PK-PIB; XU-FAI; scr.1975
4096 (NC28388 EA) 2/2/41 C-49B 41-7693; 4/9/42 VH-CDE, ADAT; 3/7/43 36 Sqd; 25/4/44
ANA; 22/5/46 VH-ANP, scr.1969
3297 (NC1953 TW) 22/3/41 C-49 41-7694;4/9/42 VH-CDF, ADAT, cr.24/4/43{?as VH-CDH)
3271 (NC1946 TW) 8/2/41 C-49 41-7686; 1/43 VH-CDG, ADAT; 20/1/44 36 Sqd; 24/4/44
ANA; 5/46 VH-ANQ, scr.11/69
4083 (NC25697 PCA) 22/7/41 C-50C 41-7695; VH-CDI, ADAT cr. 12/11/42
4120 (NC33657 AA) 31/7/41 C-50 41-7698; 28/6/643 VH-CDJ, 36 Sqd; 16/5/44 Guinea A/W; . 12/5/46 VH-ANH. Preserved
4119 (NC33656 AA) 24/7/41 C-50 41-7697; 10/42 VH-CDK; 27/5/43 36Sqd; 16/5/44 ANA;
22/5/46 VH-ANI; ZK-BKE; XW-TDD; XW-TFI, cr.15/12/74
Hello Alertken,
another great list compilation and I promise not to hijack this thread into the variations of DC-3s! smiles
The only comments I could make are that:
we are very lucky to still have s/n 1944 with us and in under cover preservation with the Queensland Air Museum at Coloundra QLD, so it should be listed as (preserved)
1944 PH-ALW, PK-ALW; (41-1944) VHCXE, VHCXL (C-49H 44-83229), VH-ANR
While VH-ANN/NC1947/s/n3272 is not strictly “preserved”, its very stripped cockpit survived in various collections for a number of years but more recently it was badly vandalised and is probably not really able to be considered “preserved” in a way.
3272 (NC1947 TW) 23/2/41 C-49 41-7687; 12/41 VH-CDB, ADAT; 24/6/43 36 Sqd; 23/2/44 . ANA; 1/46 VH-ANN, ANA. Preserved.
And of course we have a further two pre-war civil DC-3s in Australia, including VH-ABR which is still notionally airworthy.
2029 VH-ABR; 9/39 RAAF A30-3; 17/5/40 ANA VH-ABR (preserved)
4120 (NC33657 AA) 31/7/41 C-50 41-7698; 28/6/643 VH-CDJ, 36 Sqd; 16/5/44 Guinea A/W; . 12/5/46 VH-ANH. Preserved
regards
Mark Pilkington
By: longshot - 30th December 2012 at 15:38
alertken….Note on Fokker supplied DC-2s or DC-3s….they were all built and flown in the US by Douglas then flown to US East Coast, wings and props unbolted for sea-shipment then erected by Fokker at airfields convenient to the port of landing (e.g. Cherbourg, Antwerp, Rotterdam). Fokker did buy manufacturing licences but never used them…they made a nice percentage commission instead as the sole European sales agent for the DC-2 and DC-3 :). The queries I have about them are 1) did the DC-2s and DC-3s come furnished by Douglas, ready to use (I suspect they did)
2) did the sole Air France pre-war DC-3 come via Fokker (with commission:)?) as it was delivered to South America for use by AF there
3) did the Bristol Pegasus engines for LOT’s DC-2s get shipped to California for fitting or were they fitted in Europe?
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