Classic Sims

hi,
I am amazed that you guys have not suggested about Aces Over Pacific and Aces Over Europe Sims by Dynamix Inc. 1992/1993….still an unbelivabley good sim..I still have it..and play it when ever i get a chance..you can now even download it from internet..From http://www.aor.orc.ru/index.htm ..these chaps are trying make an Aces over Russia…an addon for aces over europe…plus they have Both previously mentioned Sims……

Cheers and Enjoy……

MiG_Master

Which ones were there for a 1200, I still have mine! And a CD32, I was an Amiga fan!!!

I remember a game called (I think) “Sky Strike” on the Atari ST, where you flew a number of missions in a Spitfire, including one where you flew under a bridge.

It was great fun but quite hard – I expect the game “Spitfire” on the Spectrum and Amstrad formats was either a basis or a simpler version of the same game…. :confused:

Anyone remmber a game called Tornado Ground Attack for the Atari St that was fun and I still have a copy along with loads of other Atari St stuff.

Also were some good ones on the Amiga 1200.

I might have to have a look on e-bay and try to get hold of an Amiga and an Atari just for a luagh.

I’ve recently acquired WingOver 2 for the good ol’ PSX, and what fun it is! You basically have to learn to fly a variety of aircraft (from the Cessna 172RG to the F4U Corsair(!)) before being able to take on a much larger variety of aircraft.

You even get to fly a Mozzie! 😀

I was a big fan of Jane’s USNF and ATF as well as Longbow, not as old as your games though. And later Flight Unlimited III, enjoyed it better than the MS FS. Not that old in years, but it seems ages ago!

You just aren’t trying are you? 🙂 🙂

Moggy

Mrs Simmer says I’m very trying 😉

I had a few sticks not long after though as my Dad used to review stuff for the RAF Marham magazine. He was sent one with no base, just the stick you sit between your legs and the mecury switches would do the rest. It was covered with a PVC type material as well, not a hard plastic, looking back I suppose Ann Summers would have been proud of something like that 😮

and proper analogue joystick, in fact the stick is still going after 12 years.
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You just aren’t trying are you? 🙂 🙂

Moggy

@ AirBand1

www.scan.co.uk – look for the offers, postage can be expensive though

www.dabs.co.uk – can be a little more expensive on some items but v.good service

www.microdirect.co.uk – I use these guys the most, very good service and prices, especially on the offer page

www.overclockers.co.uk – excellent but don’t sell eveything

www.ebuyer.co.uk – can be quite a lot cheaper but not everyone gets on with them, I have had no problems so far.

or why not try www.dell.co.uk and buy a new machine

Like everything in life though shop around, you could save a few pounds here and there.

Ace of Aces on a Commodore da64 was my first flight sim
couldn’t put it down once i started i especially liked the inflight refueller

Unfortunately my Fs2002 and Fs 2004 aren’t working on this computer at the moment but hoping to get a better one with more memory possibly 512mb ram bigger Hard drive maybe between 80 and 120GIG before christmas and faster CPU.

Any of you guys in the UK reccommend anything of a reasonable price please get in touch

Cheers

Strike Commander was brilliant, it was my first PC game on the 486sx 25 my dad bought for £1,700, it had an amazing 8MB RAM and a 700 MB HD:eek:

I even bought the speech addon pack for SC, once I had saved my pocket money for a SB16 and proper analogue joystick, in fact the stick is still going after 12 years.

some screen shots from http://www.thelegacy.de

my first sim on the PC was strike commander 🙂

I remember Tornado, but played it on a mate’s computer as I never had one. The first serious PC sim I owned was DID’s EF2000 Evolution in DOS. What a great sim that was, shame the last version “Eurofighter Typoon” (DID/Rage) didn’t live up to the earlier versions! :rolleyes:

Hmmm….

Had loads of early sims on the Spectrum 48K and Amstrad CPC464.

My favourite was Tornado ECR – basically an arcade shoot-em-up where you flew a Tornado OR Spitfire or Hurricane through swarms of Luftwaffe and Italian aircraft, blasting them all to smithereens! 😀 Great fun!

Then there was Spitfire 40, Spitfire (which you can actually get to run on the PC, and I know because I tried), Top Gun, Sky-High Stuntman (more arcade sillyness – but great fun), 1942 and 1943, Harrier Attack (quality! :D), Arcade Flight Simulator… those are the ones I can think of on that format.

On the Playstation (old one), I have WingOver – an arcade-style shoot-em-up which is a bit more like Premiership Manager in that you get four planes and, the more matches you win, the better armaments/engines/armour etc you can get, and better pilots to fly them. Great fun pitting a Spitfire against an F/A-18! There was also Air Combat, the first (I think) flight “sim” on the PSX. There was also WingOver 2 which was more like a sim than the first one, but still with an arcade-style feel to it.

On PS2, I’ve got Secret Weapons over Normandy – QUALITY! I love this one. Five minutes of scrapping with Me109s before I go to work really sets me up for the day! There’s another one, the front cover of the box I can see in my head, but the name escapes me….

On PC – CFS1 and 2, Red Baron 3D (pretty good – with rocket-firing Nieuports! :D), Dawn Patrol, Attack Squadron, Fighter Squadron: Screamin’ Demons Over Europe, Luftwaffe Commander, and I’m sure I’ve got a few others.

One which really should have come out on console was Airfix Dogfighter – I love that one! Might not be cutting edge or realistic, but it’s great fun nonetheless.

Amazing!

And to think that wasn’t that long ago!! 😮 😀

I’ve got two more: FS3.0 and FS4.0, they look almost exactly the same at first, but the differences are subtle. Image 3 shows the main menu of FS3 while the fourth image shows the same menu but then for FS4 with a few add-ons installed, such as the aircraft and scenery editors and the adventure factory. Another bonus in FS4 (I think it came with the aircraft editor) was the 747 that was included with a true ‘glass cockpit’! 😀
Also I think that FS4 was the first version that supported sound cards.

The external models in FS4 were a bit better too, the gear actually moved instead of dissappeared, and there was a registration on the fuselage. (images 6 and 7). The fun bit of course was adding other aircraft and scenery, such as this Red Arrows Hawk at Eindhoven Airbase (image 8). 😉

Well I found my copy of Tornado last night, I’ll try and get a few screenshots for you guys to reminisce.

The emulator runs at normal Apple IIe speeds, but as the software doesn’t need anything more it’s pretty smooth. If you want to have a go yourself, PM me an e-mail address, I think it all fits into a medium-sized message.

If I can find out how to do screenshots from FS3 to FS5 I’ll post those too, it’ll be fun to see the whole collection together!

Don’t think I ever mastered the combat option either. I recall that you only had to press one key to ‘declare war’, and then you had these little specs that came at you but didn’t really do anything more. You could bomb the enemy base too, but I’ve never seen any damage done. 😀

Hey Moggy, you should be well familiar with the first screenshot below then! I did own a Tandy Color Computer in those days, but played FS1 on my dad’s Apple IIe (in green monochrome!).

If anyone wants to relive those days, I’ve got an Apple emulator that runs under XP and the needed disk images!

That’s the one!! So realistic. There was even a combat option as I recall, which I never succeeded in mastering.

Does it run faster under XP or is it still jerk-o-vision?

Moggy

Great topic! Time for a flashback…

My first encounter with computer flight sims was when I borrowed a Commodore 128 from a friend. With the computer came a game called Ace of Aces.

In 1989 I got my first own computer (briefly owned a VIC-20 in the 80s but I won’t count that!) – a used Amiga 500 – and shortly thereafter I was flying F/A-18 Interceptor (remember that horrid code wheel?) and Sub Logic Flight Simulator II (it’s been patched a few times since then, the current version is ‘FS9’ 😉 ). F/A-18 Interceptor is still a decent simulator, I think, a bit hard to define but it has something no other computer sim has.

Over the years, names such as Fighter Bomber, Their Finest Hour: The Battle of Britain, B-17 Flying Fortress, Gunship, Chuck Yeager’s Air Combat and last but not least Thalion’s Airbus A320 simulator in which I gathered several hundred hours flying across Europe. Meanwhile, I dreamt about the new Tornado fighter bomber sim, but my computer wasn’t powerful enough for it.

Apparently the old A320 sim is still being updated by Mr Rainer Bopf… graphics are a tad better than on the Amiga, it seems, but not much!

In 1995, I retired the Amiga and converted to the PC world, mainly to be able to use Flight Simulator 4. During a visit to London that year, I bought FS5.1 together with some add-on sceneries and a “strategies” book which actually lived until last month when I threw it away.

After FS5 came FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002 and finally FS2004. For a few years (FS5-FS2000) I did some repaints, mostly of Scandinavian carriers. I think I have 500 hours or so in Microsoft’s simulators, but got tired of the constant fighting in the FS forum community where designer groups with ‘CEOs’ in charge split up one day and got together again the next, of huge egos, and last but not least the poor stability of the software.

Got to keep review copies of FS2002 and FS2004 after I’d written reviews of them for a Swedish computer magazine. I seldom use FS2004 but sometimes it’s nice to start up and look at the great visuals. I’ve been away from the FS hobby for several years now might take it up again now with the Captain Sim 707 soon coming…

Another reason I quit computer sims is that I work with real ones every day.

Maybe one should download an Amiga emulator and go back…