Cloaning

RE: Jurassic Park

PII.

“Kev I suppose we are moving forward yet again because I
agree with you on this one.”

Can you stop it, I’ll have no-one to argue with soon. (LOL)

“What do you all think about the Jurassic Park question as I will refer to it?”

They died as a result of what is called an extinction level event. The world now is a very different place to the one that existed in prehistoric times. Leave them be. If it does ever become possible to reproduce such a creature using DNA, wouldn’t it be just another form of cloning?

Jurassic Park

Kev I suppose we are moving forward yet again because I agree with you on this one. Cloning is definitely not something we should be tampering with in humans. I do however agree with you that gene therapy and other such forms of genetic research should continue so that hopefully we can one day find a day where diseases like HIV, AIDS, and hereditary disorders can be totally wiped out.

This whole topic brings up a question which I’ve been wanting to ask. You see, whenever I heard or see the acronym DNA, I think of Michael Crichton’s best-selling novel, Jurassic Park. I’ve read both Jurassic Park and The Lost World as well as seen all three movies. (I got the DVD Trilogy Collector’s Set for Christmas). The first movie is my favorite movie….period. (Yes it beats out every other movie I’ve ever seen including aviation flicks.) The book is likewise the best book I feel I’ve ever read.

On to my point. You know, they say that with some serious research that it is or will be possible to re-create dinosaurs using methods similar to those presented in Crichton’s story. Knowing that this is possible intrigues me. Dinosaurs have been a fascination of mine ever since I was a kid. I still love them today and I feel it is important that we try and learn as much as possible about this wonderful prehistoric creatures. Part of me wants to be able to re-create them just so we can see how they looked. Another part of me is nervous at that thought, as the point I think all the movies in the JP Trilogy are trying to make is that DNA is a powerful thing that perhaps shouldn’t be tampered with or we could face severe consequences. What do you all think about the Jurassic Park question as I will refer to it?

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Sparky.

“Is Dolly still alive?”

Do you mean Dolly? Or the sheep she was cloned from? I believe the sheep Dolly was cloned from is now selling her body for spare parts in a well known chain of butchers. There is no evidence to support rumours that she was escaping from the testing centre one limb at a time…

Seriously though, I think Dolly is still alive but she was suffering from the early onset of arthritis. I’m not surprised because they don’t really know what they’re messing with. But I would imagine arthritis is an occupational hazard for a sheep. They live outside in all weathers and they are only normally kept for a short time before being sold to the meat trade.

Regards,

kev35

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Is Dolly still alive?

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Consider the worst case nightmares senario Two mother-in -laws x(

and how many ,’HEARSAYS’ Liberty Xs etc haven’t they been manufactured enough!!!

On a serious note who would qualify for cloning would we be looking at the ‘master race’situation. Bang goes originality of character and with that thought.
I agree with research in to eradicating deseases with gene technology though, it would mean the end of illnesses like Huntingdons and cancers thats got to be good.

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“P.S. If I could have a cloned Britney Spears or some other really hot girl I would take it even though I am not an advocate of cloning. Call me a hypocrit I guess.. :)”

Naaahhhh, just human?

Regards,

kev35

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 30-12-02 AT 00:16 AM (GMT)]Eight words…..

Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones..

How long will it be till an army fields cloned troopers??

J33Nelson

P.S. If I could have a cloned Britney Spears or some other really hot girl I would take it even though I am not an advocate of cloning. Call me a hypocrit I guess.. 🙂

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Actually I should be more clear.

I oppose the cloning of humans… not animals.

In the case of endangered species, or for understanding genes better I think that should continue with rules of course.

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We need a Sec Council Res authorising “all necessary measures” to ensure that a Task Force can make unannounced visits to all labs suspected of producing clones. If suspected, the relevant scientists should, under UN supervion, be put through “out of body” experiences.

We should start off with the well known international Rogue Clone, Dolly. 🙂 🙂 :9 :9 :+ :+

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I disagree with cloning too.
There is no shortage of males and or females and people in general.
So many orphans with so many parents wanting “their own” child.

It is worse than inbreeding in that the offspring has identical parent genes, whereas an inbred baby has slightly different parent genes (they at least have to be different in gender…).

Of course if I had a hereditary disease I would want some gene manipulation. I can think of nothing worse than handing on to ones’ child parkensens disease or altzheimers.

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cloning – a big NO NO

rabie :9

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I agree cloaning should not be used because the human body should not be tampared and it is a complete and uter waste of time

I don’t even think there shoud be a dolly the sheep

The scientists trying to do this are wasting their time and our tax money

Why don’t they try to make somthing that would make us all better like widden the search to try to cure cancer or aids

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“Kev the way people are acting on cloaning is not good. majority of doctors appose this…… these poeple are playing with genetics …its no joke…they are messing with the structure of the nature here.”

Yes, for the cloning, but I think gene therapy is a separate issue which warrants further research. If they can find a way to tackle the genes which predispose a person to a particular illness or condition, and then alter or destroy that gene it would save hundreds of thousands of pointless deaths. Let’s say for instance, someone very close to you is to develop a terminal illness while they are young. Would you not want the medical profession to do everything in their power to save them? The ability to target particular genes will come, and probably a long time before the cure for these illnesses. Isn’t the old saying ‘Prevention is better than cure…’

Regards,

kev35

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Cloning a human clearly crosses the boundaries into
>the world of curiosity, which if pursued could lead to
>inappropriate and dangerous results

nicely said Saab…..

Kev the way people are acting on cloaning is not good. majority of doctors appose this…… these poeple are playing with genetics…its no joke…they are messing with the structure of the nature here.

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Hi, Kab.

“Do you support this….i dont one bit…”

I don’t support the cloning of human beings, I see no point and no benefit to creating humans who are all alike. It is our innate individuality that makes us who and what we are. Nature produces identical twins but they have individual personalities, will that be the case with clones?

“humans are not meant to mess with DNA and genes.”

This is where we might disagree somewhat. I think there is a definite case in favour of gene therapy. If the gene that predisposes a woman to breast cancer or a child to cystic fibrosis can be identified, and then in some way altered or removed then that has to be a good thing. Doctors take the ‘Hippocratic’ oath, the main tenet of which is ‘first, do no harm.’ As long as this is strictly adhered to everything should work out all right. I have seen too many people, both patients under my care and loved ones, die the most senseless of deaths to stand in the way of some areas of medical progress.

I do not support the manipulation of genes for cosmetic, religious or idealistic purposes, but if it is to relieve the suffering of the ill, then it is acceptable.

Regards,

kev35

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-12-02 AT 04:41 PM (GMT)]In my opinion cloning is an infringement of the sanctity of human life. It takes away the uniqueness and identity of every person. It also demotes and de-values human life as we know it. Cloning a human clearly crosses the boundaries into the world of curiosity, which if pursued could lead to inappropriate and dangerous results; thus I think it should be banned. However, I doubt any ban could stop any elite group of people using this procedure for dangerous acts.

I would only ask people who do not agree with my opinions to spare a thought for the emotions of the cloned child and the discrimination it will face in modern day society. What will it read on the birth certificate under father? “Cloned”?