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Close up pictures of a Continental 737 with winglets

Showing up at the gate in Atlanta I noticed that a CAL 737 was parked right next to us, possibily RON since it didn’t have a jetway. I’ve been looking forward to seeing these winglets upclose and thought a few here might as well so out came the camera.

Unfortunately the sun went behind the clouds during my trip onto the ramp so the lighting isn’t the best.

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By: wysiwyg - 19th October 2004 at 22:19

It’s 100% safe…right up until the first one goes down 😉 Seriosly though, if you had a problem you’d just turn for the nearest shoreline.

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By: wysiwyg - 19th October 2004 at 22:19

It’s 100% safe…right up until the first one goes down 😉 Seriosly though, if you had a problem you’d just turn for the nearest shoreline.

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By: Ren Frew - 19th October 2004 at 22:04

If Spanish or French ATC were having one of their regular strikes we would head out into the Atlantic for a few hundred miles before turning left. It’s actually quite common out of GLA (and occasionally NCL and MAN) even when the europeans are working!

Ah… I understand, seems a bit dangerous to me but there you go. :confused:

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By: Ren Frew - 19th October 2004 at 22:04

If Spanish or French ATC were having one of their regular strikes we would head out into the Atlantic for a few hundred miles before turning left. It’s actually quite common out of GLA (and occasionally NCL and MAN) even when the europeans are working!

Ah… I understand, seems a bit dangerous to me but there you go. :confused:

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By: wysiwyg - 19th October 2004 at 21:59

If Spanish or French ATC were having one of their regular strikes we would head out into the Atlantic for a few hundred miles before turning left. It’s actually quite common out of GLA (and occasionally NCL and MAN) even when the europeans are working!

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By: wysiwyg - 19th October 2004 at 21:59

If Spanish or French ATC were having one of their regular strikes we would head out into the Atlantic for a few hundred miles before turning left. It’s actually quite common out of GLA (and occasionally NCL and MAN) even when the europeans are working!

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By: Ren Frew - 18th October 2004 at 01:15

I always found it somewhat uncomfortable operating a 757-300 down the Tango routes from the UK to the Canaries nearly 400 miles off shore for up to 4 hours with nearly 300 souls on board. The reason I was concerned was that in the event of a ditching if you overloaded every available life raft to the max (assuming they all worked!) you had enough capacity for less than half of the occupants!!!

Not so much Tango as Titanic routes then ?

Why and where did you need to be 400 miles offshore to the Canaries from the UK? I though it was all pretty much Bay of Biscay, Northern Spain, Portugal, Azores, Morocco etc all the way ? :confused:

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By: Ren Frew - 18th October 2004 at 01:15

I always found it somewhat uncomfortable operating a 757-300 down the Tango routes from the UK to the Canaries nearly 400 miles off shore for up to 4 hours with nearly 300 souls on board. The reason I was concerned was that in the event of a ditching if you overloaded every available life raft to the max (assuming they all worked!) you had enough capacity for less than half of the occupants!!!

Not so much Tango as Titanic routes then ?

Why and where did you need to be 400 miles offshore to the Canaries from the UK? I though it was all pretty much Bay of Biscay, Northern Spain, Portugal, Azores, Morocco etc all the way ? :confused:

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By: wysiwyg - 17th October 2004 at 22:13

I always found it somewhat uncomfortable operating a 757-300 down the Tango routes from the UK to the Canaries nearly 400 miles off shore for up to 4 hours with nearly 300 souls on board. The reason I was concerned was that in the event of a ditching if you overloaded every available life raft to the max (assuming they all worked!) you had enough capacity for less than half of the occupants!!!

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By: wysiwyg - 17th October 2004 at 22:13

I always found it somewhat uncomfortable operating a 757-300 down the Tango routes from the UK to the Canaries nearly 400 miles off shore for up to 4 hours with nearly 300 souls on board. The reason I was concerned was that in the event of a ditching if you overloaded every available life raft to the max (assuming they all worked!) you had enough capacity for less than half of the occupants!!!

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By: Whiskey Delta - 16th October 2004 at 17:39

I don’t know what the capabilities are for non-ETOPS airlineres here. Our only operational limitation is that we can’t be any further than 50 NM from land, not necessarily an airport, since we don’t have floatation equipment on board.

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By: Whiskey Delta - 16th October 2004 at 17:39

I don’t know what the capabilities are for non-ETOPS airlineres here. Our only operational limitation is that we can’t be any further than 50 NM from land, not necessarily an airport, since we don’t have floatation equipment on board.

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By: wysiwyg - 16th October 2004 at 17:02

Interesting. Under JAR we could fly any non-ETOPS 757 up to 400 miles from a suitable diversion.

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By: wysiwyg - 16th October 2004 at 17:02

Interesting. Under JAR we could fly any non-ETOPS 757 up to 400 miles from a suitable diversion.

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By: Whiskey Delta - 16th October 2004 at 13:33

Very interesting, thanks. What route were you applying for ETOPS approval for?

The ETOPS would help with our IAH to Florida, Carribean and Central American routes as we are required to stay within 50 NM of the coast rather than fly straight across the Gulf of Mexico. Out of EWR it would help with the Carribean as well as Halifax, NS and St. John’s, Newfoundland. I’m sure they have a lot more on the books that they want to launch pending a short ETOPS but we’ll only find out about them when they appear on our schedules.

As we have seen, Continental are starting alot of new transatlantic services to new regional detinations with 757s; maybe the etops 737-800 will make an appearance too when certified??

I doubt they would bother with Transatlantic. CO has had some explosive growth in Central America as well as the previous service to the Carribean islands that all benefit from ETOPS due to the fuel savings of direct routing out of IAH and EWR. Also can’t forget about the Guam base which is by far the biggest benefactor of the ETOPS certification. Every destination there is an island out in the Pacific Ocean.

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By: Whiskey Delta - 16th October 2004 at 13:33

Very interesting, thanks. What route were you applying for ETOPS approval for?

The ETOPS would help with our IAH to Florida, Carribean and Central American routes as we are required to stay within 50 NM of the coast rather than fly straight across the Gulf of Mexico. Out of EWR it would help with the Carribean as well as Halifax, NS and St. John’s, Newfoundland. I’m sure they have a lot more on the books that they want to launch pending a short ETOPS but we’ll only find out about them when they appear on our schedules.

As we have seen, Continental are starting alot of new transatlantic services to new regional detinations with 757s; maybe the etops 737-800 will make an appearance too when certified??

I doubt they would bother with Transatlantic. CO has had some explosive growth in Central America as well as the previous service to the Carribean islands that all benefit from ETOPS due to the fuel savings of direct routing out of IAH and EWR. Also can’t forget about the Guam base which is by far the biggest benefactor of the ETOPS certification. Every destination there is an island out in the Pacific Ocean.

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By: dc10fan - 16th October 2004 at 10:41

As we have seen, Continental are starting alot of new transatlantic services to new regional detinations with 757s; maybe the etops 737-800 will make an appearance too when certified??

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By: dc10fan - 16th October 2004 at 10:41

As we have seen, Continental are starting alot of new transatlantic services to new regional detinations with 757s; maybe the etops 737-800 will make an appearance too when certified??

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By: wysiwyg - 16th October 2004 at 09:33

Very interesting, thanks. What route were you applying for ETOPS approval for?

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By: wysiwyg - 16th October 2004 at 09:33

Very interesting, thanks. What route were you applying for ETOPS approval for?

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