Cockpit photo Quiz 4756 Pt IIb

Rats.

The short-term memory isn’t what it…

What?

Hmmm?

Anyway, I’ve just checked and it’s from an album of an FAA chappie. Could be anywhere (but there are Avengers there) and no Brewster Bermudas. Did the RN Avengers / Tarpons have this kind of setup?

Ah, well, an honest mistake. We learn and live. Or something.

Cheers!

That’s it for the moment.

I can’t tell you were it is yet, but it is from a website with S American connections. There’s also quite a few RN FAA aircraft featured… So that might be part of it. The website doesn’t know what it is, but they’ve also been a bit erratic on identifiable a/c too.

Could the ring sight be a export version mod? I cheerfully admit I’m being awkward, but my hands are tied. Before anyone ticksd me off, I thought we’d rather have a play with it than not, hence the post.

Brian – I’ll see if I can find another UFO for you. 😉

Thanks James, it’s been helping me convalesce whilst at home this week and take my mind off other mundane problems….but to quote an old football pundit…’it’s a funny old game isn’t it?’ …nothing ever totally black and white in this business it seems, there’s always the exception that proves the rule.

And back to your original post, what is the background on the snapshot, and the posssible South American connection?

Cheers, Brian

And OK, so nobody likes a smart b*****d, but it has been fun!! Any more?

I’m not conviance guys,

Here is why, one look at the Stick its not the same the Brewster had the duel button on the left part of the grip while the TBF had only one the reason I know this is because I have a complete control Colume in my collection from a TBF-1C Tarpon.

Next only the Brewster Topeado Bomber has the Ring Site none of the Grumman or Eastern had the Ring. But I do have to admitte I was wrong on the teloscoptic site.

Also if you look between the Artif. Horiz. and Alterm. there is a placard Brain photos don’t have this also on the lower part of the Instrumnet apnal there is no placards. I doulbe check my panal today and there is no placards located on either mu FAA/RN or US Navy example. So I’m going to stand on the SB2A till I see better proof 😀

This is great fun James :diablo:

Cheers
RER

Hmmm… Looks like you may be right Brian! Well done.

Cockpit photo Quiz 4756 Pt IIb

Herewith a couple of genuine Avenger photographs for comparison, but with the advantage of a clarity that should allow many points of cross reference to be made (including the sight on the cockpit coaming, neatly placed between the leather padding. Must admit am a little confused over the gunsight (on JDK’s original photo, placed on the right hand side) What do you think?
Brian

That’s as good as it get’s. I could enlarge it, but it’ll just pixillate.

I don’t go for Avenger / TBM, though Brian’s points help in probably identifying a similar role…

Cheers!

Hi All

FYI the TBF/TBM never had the Telscoptic Bomb site the n big tube thing sitting in the middle of the window.

I’m going to be looking at my Buccaner photos latter today so I hope to get a better idea.

James is their anyway you can blow up the emblem on the foot petel.

Cheers
RER

Cockpit photo Quiz 4756 Pt IIb

…Still sticking with the Avenger. Your eyes are good Crazymainer…I can’t make out the foot pedal, far less an emblem thereon!

I’ll own up now though and offer credit to John Weal’s cockpit instrumentation key in Eric Brown’s ‘Wings of the Navy’ for the following..

Strong points in Avenger’s favour (or favor!) electrics box on right cockpit wall, recognition switches, battery switches, gun camera, torpedo etc etc.
‘T’ handle above right rudder pedal = wing fold lock, centrally placed compass D/I box in front of control column has de-icer and cockpit heat controls below it. General instrument layout (apart from standard blind flying panel) matches the drawing too closely to be anything else. I’ll scan the drawing and try to post it if that helps..if that doesn’t infringe copyrights ..

Brian S.

That folding coffee table (sorry, plotting table) makes it naval and American to me. I remember seeing something like that in a Dauntless cockpit, but I guess it was a feature common to a few naval types.

Just checked, and it isn’t a Dauntless, so over to more learned forum members now!

Hi James,

On futher review it is a Brewster build aircraft but not the SBN but a SB2A-1 Buccaneer the -1 had the Bomb Scope while the the-2 didn’t.

Why do you think it is in South America.

Cheers
RER

Thanks RER,
Did they serve with any S. American air arms? Looks like you could be right. I’m afraid that’s as good as the quality gets.
Cheers

Hi James,

It looks to be a Brewster SBA/SBN-1, my first thought was a Curtis SBC but there is no shadow of the Top Wing.

Also notice it has a Telascobic Bombsite and the early style Bomb release lever.Also if you can look at the emblem on the foot petal I think you will see its appears to be a Brewster emblem.

Cheers
RER

I wondered about an Avenger, but they never (AFAIK!) had a gunsight like that, though SBDs etc did. I do agree I think it’s an American aircraft.

How are we going to find out? Sheer power of the forum deah boy, can’t you feel the force? 😀

We THINK it’s in S America.

Cockpit photo Quiz 4756 Pt IIb

…Could it be the office of a Grumman Avenger by any chance?. (I’m usually way down the list on posting though…everybody else gone to bed?)
PS if you don’t know what it is JDK how we gonna find out? Cheers, bms44

Judging by the instruments, it is american, it is a military machine (has a gun/or bombsight). Probably some sort of a single engine bomber or even a trainer.