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Codesharing

I have been wondering for some time, what exactly is codesharing, and how does it work?

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By: greekdude1 - 29th April 2004 at 05:00

Codeshares aren’t always at the same prices. The carrier that operates the flight, is usually the cheapest.

Not necessarily. Just today I booked my flight for Vegas later on in May. I had been checking for months on both Orbitz and UAL.com. My flights have USAirways flight numbers, operated by United, booked on UAL.com. The same exact itinerary, booked as regular United flights (not the US codeshare) also on UAL.com, was double the price. I paid $177US.

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By: greekdude1 - 25th April 2004 at 21:36

Originally posted by greekdude1
Interestingly enough, I just checked UA’s electronic timetable to list the flights between LHR and BKK and the direct TG flight didn’t come up. They listed 2 flights, both via FRA. LHR-FRA on LH, then FRA-BKK on TG.

As an amendment to my last post, although the TG codeshare flight didn’t come up on the electronic timetable, I went to ual.com and seached for an itinerary, and the non-stop TG flight LHR-BKK did come up, as UA9671. Weird how it won’t come up on the timetable.:confused:

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By: T5 - 25th April 2004 at 21:30

Originally posted by green320
Airport websites don’t show flight numbers of those not operating the flight. Teletext does though which is where I find out the codeshares!!:p

BAA.co.uk does show most codeshare services. Either that or it’s just pure coincidence that three completely different airlines fly from Edinburgh to Heathrow and depart and arrive at exactly the same time.

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By: SkyHIGH - 25th April 2004 at 17:50

CO and BE also codeshare between BHX and EWR, which is always useful for passengers wanting to connect with BE flights to Jersey, Isle of Man, etc!

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By: tenthije - 24th April 2004 at 22:07

Originally posted by Jeanske_SN
Codeshares aren’t always at the same prices. The carrier that operates the flight, is usually the cheapest.

I agree. I once tried to book a flight through a travel agent (did not have a credit card then). They only had a nice LH flight between LHR and AMS. Price was “only” 50 pounds. I asked if they had a BMI flight… the exact same flight now “mysteriously” showed upt 20 pounds cheaper!

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By: Jeanske_SN - 24th April 2004 at 21:56

An interesting example to this is the partnership with SN Brussels Airlines with American Airlines. AA sells SN seats for nearly all of the SN flights at a slightly higher price.
Codeshares aren’t always at the same prices. The carrier that operates the flight, is usually the cheapest. But AA sells seats for all airlines, even for Delta and United and US, but that is very expensive.
A very big part of passengers that fly to Africa started their journey in the US.

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By: greekdude1 - 24th April 2004 at 21:29

Originally posted by T5
Was quite surprised by my Thai flight last week from Bangkok to London Heathrow. When we boarded the aircraft in Thailand, the screen said it was a codeshare with Air Canada and United Airlines. However, baa.co.uk displayed it only as TG917 and not the other two flight numbers.

Interestingly enough, I just checked UA’s electronic timetable to list the flights between LHR and BKK and the direct TG flight didn’t come up. They listed 2 flights, both via FRA. LHR-FRA on LH, then FRA-BKK on TG.

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By: tenthije - 24th April 2004 at 20:25

Originally posted by green320
Airport websites don’t show flight numbers of those not operating the flight. Teletext does though which is where I find out the codeshares!!:p

at the website of AMS the code share flight numbers are listed as well. Quite annoying if you ask me. Instead of 5 pages with the flights you now need 10 or more.

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By: green320 - 24th April 2004 at 20:07

Airport websites don’t show flight numbers of those not operating the flight. Teletext does though which is where I find out the codeshares!!:p

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By: T5 - 24th April 2004 at 19:55

Was quite surprised by my Thai flight last week from Bangkok to London Heathrow. When we boarded the aircraft in Thailand, the screen said it was a codeshare with Air Canada and United Airlines. However, baa.co.uk displayed it only as TG917 and not the other two flight numbers.

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By: Johnny - 24th April 2004 at 19:50

Cheers, thats great. I understand it now.

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By: green320 - 24th April 2004 at 19:28

I know Flybe and Continental codeshare on the Manchester-Newark route!!

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By: tenthije - 24th April 2004 at 19:27

Let’s take KLM and IB as an example for a flight between AMS and MAD.

KLM code-shares with IB and vice versa. This means that IB can sell seats on the KLM flight between AMS and MAD. The KLM flight will have a KL flight number, but also a IB flight number. For each seat sold by IB, KLM gets a part of the proceeds. IB of course also keeps part of the proceeds.

This is done quite often and has a number of advantages. Firstly it offers the airline the opportunity to offer more frequency. Iberia could in the past offer seats on its 5 flights, now it can offer seats on 10 flights… KLM & IB.

Another advantage is that not all destinations can be flown by all airlines. Surinam Airlines has been selling flights to Europe for many years now, even though they have not had a long range plane for decades. This was done through a code share with KLM.

There are also disadvantages of course. Firstly you are dependant on the other airline. If they **** up the customer will think IB is to blame. At least partially. If the other airline is too good, the customer may decide not to book with the first airline but with the code share partner.

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