February 9, 2010 at 10:00 pm
When Braniff “Owned” Concorde on the internal US flights, for a year, how much decal changing was there? I believe they had a large decal for the American registration #, but what else?
And did Singapore AL operate a similar arrangement?
By: OneLeft - 13th February 2010 at 23:15
Did the BA ones ever get the BOAC livery
I don’t believe so. As far as I know they were originally in the Concorde ‘house’ colours during test flying, then went into the BA ‘red tail’ livery before the inaugural commercial service.
Couldn’t swear to that though.
1L.
By: farnboroughrob - 12th February 2010 at 19:27
I well remember G-N94AA at heathrow and posaably some of the others? They were in standard BA scheme but with unique regs.The theroey was they were G red until they were handed over to Braniff crews at IAD and returned to G- when they left later for LHR. Anybody got a photo with the
G-N reg?
By: old shape - 12th February 2010 at 18:41
Here ya go:
Ta, didn’t look that bad.
By: Bmused55 - 12th February 2010 at 09:37
So, the SQ one did have a livery painted……I’ve never seen a piccy of that.
Here ya go:
By: old shape - 12th February 2010 at 01:06
Thanks for the anwers team.
So, the SQ one did have a livery painted……I’ve never seen a piccy of that.
Did the BA ones ever get the BOAC livery, as per the first Airfix kits before 1st flight? (Oh how I wish I’d kept that).
I was around at the time but I can’t remember!!!!
By: Bmused55 - 11th February 2010 at 00:16
Nope.
Braniff operated between Washington and ???? in the US. It never went over mach 0.95 (Allegedly).
As it was a hated product in the US (Envy!!!!), the B727’s on the same route were full whilst the Concorde would take an average of 18 pax.
After this hub flight, the machine was handed to Air France (Or BA) in an official way, and the decals were peeled off again. At every flight FFS!
You learn something new every day!
By: OneLeft - 10th February 2010 at 23:57
When Braniff “Owned” Concorde on the internal US flights, for a year, how much decal changing was there? I believe they had a large decal for the American registration #, but what else?
Between Early 1979 and spring 1980 Braniff used aircraft owned by BA and AF for their short-lived Concorde flights from IAD to DFW, with Braniff crews taking over the aircraft from the crew who brought them in from LHR and CDG.
The Braniff crews operated the aircraft on the US register and to US procedures which meant that the aircraft reg’s and ship library were changed each time the crew changed at IAD. The registration was changed by replacing the first part of the G- or F- registration with N94, eg: G-BOAA became N94AA and F-BVFC became N94FC. A sticker could be used for this as the aircraft flew subsonically over the US.
The Braniff livery often seen on models and publicity material was never actually applied to an aircraft.
1L.
By: OneLeft - 10th February 2010 at 23:48
And did Singapore AL operate a similar arrangement?
The BA/SQ arrangement for Concorde flight from LHR to SIN (via BAH) was effectively an early codeshare agreement. The aircraft were operated by BA, although SQ did provide 3 out of the 6 cabin crew.
G-BOAD was the dedicated aircraft for the operation and was painted with the SQ livery on it’s left and BA livery on it’s right.
Flights were originally launched in Dec ’77, although they were suspended after only 3 return flights, due to problems with routings to avoid sonic boom disturbance. They were reintroduced after these problems were solved in Jan ’79, but were never a huge success and were permanantly withdrawn in Nov ’80.
1L.
By: old shape - 10th February 2010 at 23:26
Did the Concorde ever wear BI colours in regular operations? (as opposed to PR/ad duty).
I was under the impression it was an interchgange with BI crew from DC to DFW…or something similar.
Also, would the plane have to have US registration?
The reason I ask is many years ago I saw my sister onto a 737 (what airline I can’t recall), and I was surprised to note Irish registration on the wings. It was obviously leased.
Leasing arrangements often cause this.
By: old shape - 10th February 2010 at 23:25
I was convinced that any and all signage on concorde had to be painted, due to the temperatures and speeds Concorde operated at.
Nope.
Braniff operated between Washington and ???? in the US. It never went over mach 0.95 (Allegedly).
As it was a hated product in the US (Envy!!!!), the B727’s on the same route were full whilst the Concorde would take an average of 18 pax.
After this hub flight, the machine was handed to Air France (Or BA) in an official way, and the decals were peeled off again. At every flight FFS!
By: steve rowell - 10th February 2010 at 02:38
You may find your information here
http://www.braniffpages.com/concorde.html
By: J Boyle - 9th February 2010 at 22:30
Did the Concorde ever wear BI colours in regular operations? (as opposed to PR/ad duty).
I was under the impression it was an interchgange with BI crew from DC to DFW…or something similar.
Also, would the plane have to have US registration?
The reason I ask is many years ago I saw my sister onto a 737 (what airline I can’t recall), and I was surprised to note Irish registration on the wings. It was obviously leased.
By: Bmused55 - 9th February 2010 at 22:11
I was convinced that any and all signage on concorde had to be painted, due to the temperatures and speeds Concorde operated at.