Cookie found in Koblenz

hi,
take your point about missing photos,but just googled Paul Ross-Photography Keele Air Photo libary, very informative introduction,approx. 5.5 million recce photos mostly built up a mosaic of all active countries during the war.

The collection is now held by the RCAHMS in Edinburgh.

hi,
take your point about missing photos,but just googled Paul Ross-Photography Keele Air Photo libary, very informative introduction,approx. 5.5 million recce photos mostly built up a mosaic of all active countries during the war.
They show ie- a string of bomb craters with a missing crater-a dud?
So my mistake not all bomb photo,s,but on the plus side the USAAFE
bomb pattens would show,and it also confirms German govt.has used
the libary on building projects,mentions a school on top of 5 tons of explosives,and they have paid over £300,000 to digitalise them.

regards
jack…

Bomb disposal on the mainland is somewhat of a necessity, and is mandatory on discovery AND on getting new planning permissions (at least in The Netherlands). Cases in my hometown alone the past decade:
– Clearing of around 65 bombs and mortars around a major river crossing bridge to enable a new bridge to be built. Heaviest was a 1000-lbs.
– Clearing of a shot-down Lancaster bomber including bombs and ordnance due to a new road being put in (the Lanc went in with a 4,000-lbs bomb on board).
– Dredging the medieval city centre canals produced no less than 200 pieces of heavy ammo, guns, mortars and grenades.
– A two year delay in a housing estate plan due to unexploded ordnance from WW2, mainly 500-lbs bombs that missed a nearby wharf. They were discovered during planning when looking at old air-ground pics showing exploded bomb strings with ‘missing’ gaps indicating unexploded ordnance.

And my hometown wasn’t even heavily bombed in WW2!

I remember the foggy mornings on Eindhoven airport waiting for the weather to improve to fly, with the military routinely setting off bombs they found on the old airfield. 163 alone from an old 1500 metres strip, including 39 1000-lbs ones. Made for some pretty impressive bangs.

Sorry, but it is simply not practicable.

By ‘RAF bombing photographs’ do you mean the photographs taken by each bomber as its bombload was dropped?

I can see a few problems: I’m sure the vast majority of these photographs were not kept, how do you distinguish the ‘duds’ from these photographs (that show where they were dropped (hopefully) not if they exploded), the location of many of these photographs could not be determined (even when not bombing through cloud), what about the photographs that were lost in shot-down bombers and the large number of (early war) bombers that didn’t take such photographs?

Although there have been a few tragedies from unexploded bombs these are mercifully rare considering the numbers of bombs involved. There is inconvenience sometimes but I cannot see a way of avoiding that; certainly not if you aim is to save money doing so.

hi,
don,t Keele University hold all RAF bombing photographs,and i belive the German govt.consult with them when any building work is planned?. So considering the amount of iron we “donated”,you,d think with computers they could start at the top end of bombs (size wise)locate,to see if in delicate positions,possibly deal with ,and then work down to the tidlers.Although the US contribution would still be “the ace in the hole”.

regards
jack…

It’s certainly been hauled away somewhere, have not seen much beyond that.

Wonder where the rest of the aircraft is? Washed away I suppose.

A fairly large chunk of a wing has been exposed on a newly-exposed part of the Rhine riverbed at Duesseldorf.

Hi
hope it finds a good home.
cheers
Jerry

I’d send it back to where it was made and ask for a refund.

Definitely a case of Faulty Goods – failed to work as advertised:diablo:

Anon.

Hi,
correct terms I think from memory

‘unfit for purpose’ and ‘un-merchantable quality’

would make a good claim for the MOD in the UK small claims court.
But likely damages would cost as per 40’s .
Cheers
Jerry

How many diifferent ‘bomber aircraft’ in that first 2 mins of this film ?

http://www.nfb.ca/film/Wings_on_Her_Shoulder/

The 2 Battles in the first 10 seconds appear to be twin canopy type trainers ?? Any thoughts ?

Have a look at this film, which at the start shows such bombs being, er, assembled with hammers by the look of it!

http://www.nfb.ca/film/Wings_on_Her_Shoulder/

Nice shot of Stirling bomb doors closing too – rare footage I’d imagine!

Jim

Now if this goes bang, I am glad I live in South Gloucestershire!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery

It was an official UK government gift:D

Dud

I’d send it back to where it was made and ask for a refund.

Definitely a case of Faulty Goods – failed to work as advertised:diablo:

Anon.

An interesting concept, Kesha. This is slightly tongue in cheek…but…

Let me get this right. The British Government (unsurprisingly!) make no legal claim on a bomb they delivered to Germany, that failed to go off and most certainly ‘belonged’ to HMG when the RAF carelessly left it behind in Germany.

On the other hand, if this was a RAF aircraft of some historic import then my money would be on HMG making a claim on title to that aircraft given some recently recorded events. Unless, of course, it contained a Cookie.

Wonder if they will send the bill to the UK government?

Don`t worry… the legal bearing of this case is that it was a assignment of property. As the UK never claimed for a reassignation of the cookie, it`s now German property.

I`m serious on this. 😎

A fairly large chunk of a wing has been exposed on a newly-exposed part of the Rhine riverbed at Duesseldorf.

Blimey… I´m living nearby and didn`t notice this article!

http://www.rp-online.de/region-duesseldorf/meerbusch/nachrichten/jaeger-tragflaeche-geborgen-1.2617163

Meerbusch, near Düsseldorf, about 4.5 meters long, possibly part of a P-51 wing:

Hi
I wonder what else may turn up with dropping water levels ?
cheers
Jerry

A fairly large chunk of a wing has been exposed on a newly-exposed part of the Rhine riverbed at Duesseldorf.

Showing almost every bomb in the arsenal except a cookie. Love those researchers :rolleyes:

Moggy

New video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IklclEQdPQQ