Cop Killer To Be Released After 48 Years

it comes as a GREAT surprise to me that J BOYLE and SNAFU would agree on ANYTHING given what i’ve read on here in the last couple of yrs.

I reserve the right to agree with anybody, and also to disagree with anybody as well. Even Edgar.

I actually find the incessant stirring utterly depressing

I agree, but how would we know if you stopped it?

Shouldn’t that be a vulture’s back?

No, the idiom doesn’t work since vultures are not known for their water resistance – hence ducks.

Harry Roberts, 78

Ok in prison, own room, heating, laundry done for you, top of the medical waiting list, free medical and dental care, 3 meals a day (hot) prepared for you and served, clothing provided, no bills to worry about, tv without the need to pay for a licence.

Outside, none of the above…. I wonder if he wanted to leave.

he will happily point that out to me at every available opportunity

I actually find the incessant stirring utterly depressing

Water off a ducks back, though.

Shouldn’t that be a vulture’s back?
There was more, but getting a sensible response is rather like trying to hold water in a sieve

For those with a genuine interest in the subject, there’s a report of an interview, from 6 years ago, with Roberts, in next week’s Radio Times; I remain unconvinced, but that’s probably due to cynicism increasing with age, and matters little to those in authority.

Gentlemen, discussions are the root of democracy. Opposing views allow us to reach the centre ground. No one is right or wrong, it is just our opinion.

Unfortunately, extremist opinions unbalance this theory. Some so called trolls are just voicing an opposite opinion. But some trolls are from a different planet nay solar system, even trolling HM QEII.

Now back to the thread.

it comes as a GREAT surprise to me that J BOYLE and SNAFU would agree on ANYTHING given what i’ve read on here in the last couple of yrs.

Edgar, just because you are old enough to remember those rhymes when they were young, fresh and radical doesn’t mean everyone is.
I repeated them because I was unaware of them before doing some research about two years ago, and figured that others – not you, obviously: you know everything – might also be thoroughly unaware of them too. (There is another one that I’d forgotten – remember the chants that the Hare Krishna followers used to chant, but replace Hare Krishna with Harry Roberts…!) Sometimes you have to eat a little dirt, and sometimes you have to hear (or read) unsavoury things, and these rhymes demonstrate the sort of lengths some people went to in an effort to rile the police; although I cannot honestly believe that anyone took those rhymes seriously at the time, as in believed that Harry Roberts was their friend because he’d killed police officers, but it is a crazy world and stranger things must have happened in the past. I would never condone what this man did and judging from the things he has done when in an open prison (smuggling in contraband and selling drugs to other inmates) and threatening the owners of an animal sanctuary he was working at with violence when he was on day release that, short of a recent full frontal lobotomy, I can’t imagine he is anywhere near rehabilitated enough to anybody but an opportunistic parole boards satisfaction.

It comes as no surprise to see you leaping to this creature’s defence, but it would be appreciated if you had the courtesy to read what was written.

Mr Boyle, I think you’ll find the ‘creature’ he is referring to might actually be me…

Edgar disagrees with me; apparently anything I put here is wasted space and antagonistic, my only purpose is to stir up trouble, and he will happily point that out to me at every available opportunity – witness his second sentence in post 7 (above). Water off a ducks back, though.

Boy, Ed…you really misread me. I would not have minded if they’d hung the guy “back in the day”. I’m not a fan of murderers…especially cop killers who would have shot (presumably) unarmed police officers.

My point is one of historic perspective, nothing more.

Back in 1970, American author Tom Wolfe (yes, he of The Right Stuff fame) wrote something called
“Radical Chic”…about how members of the high-end of society liked to invite radicals to their parties to gain hipness points with their psudo-intellectual friends.
In the same vein we had/have public school/university-student anarchist support causes that “daddy” would not have approved of…while spending his money to take trips abroad and buy a new Capri.
Today, we still see it with people wearing Che T-shirts or the latest incarnation…Jihad chic.

If we haven’t seen it yet, we will soon see people making excuses for the likes of the New York, Boston, Ottawa and London attackers…
It’s not right, but it is human nature.

Or he could have posted them here to let younger readers put the crime into context. Emotions ran high on both sides.

It comes as no surprise to see you leaping to this creature’s defence, but it would be appreciated if you had the courtesy to read what was written. The existence of the chants is not disputed, just whether we really need, yet again, to read every word that was said. Some like to wallow in such nastiness; others don’t.

If you want reactions to an apparently crass decision by an apparently thoughtless parole board, of course not.
If your interest is solely in stirring up a hornet’s nest of reaction for and against the police force and a murderer, while sitting back, under a cloak of anonymity, smugly enjoying any over-reaction, then of course you do.

Or he could have posted them here to let younger readers put the crime into context.
The late 60s and early 70s were a weird time when a lot of bad stuff was going on and much of it excused for various social and political reasons. (Not that anything similar would ever happen today :rolleyes: ).
Emotions ran high on both sides.

Thinking about it, do we really need to repeat those here?

Anarchist chants? Don’t tell me what to chant!

Maybe we are misjudging the Parole Board.

Harry Roberts sounds pretty unrepentant; maybe that’s the point, maybe he is quite happy to stay in prison and the Parole Board know this?

If you want reactions to an apparently crass decision by an apparently thoughtless parole board, of course not.
If your interest is solely in stirring up a hornet’s nest of reaction for and against the police force and a murderer, while sitting back, under a cloak of anonymity, smugly enjoying any over-reaction, then of course you do.

The cause of a couple of anarchic chants in the late 60’s, early 70’s:

Thinking about it, do we really need to repeat those here?

So how much is it going to cost the taxpayer to integrate him back into “society” ?

Don’t jest, JB – I should think the BBC have got him in their sights for dancing as well!!!!!

Apparently he has learned to paint and cook whilst in prison:

So he’ll have a pair of DIY shows on BBC soon? 🙂

I should imagine that, at seventy-eight years of age, ‘freedom’ may be quite a frightening experience for Harry Roberts.