Could a propeller driven aeroplane still be lethal in aerial combat today ?

If you can put laser weapons on them then they could be lethal, no doubt

In economy plane like Lear Fan 2100 beat the business jets hands down.

Polish PZL 230 was turboprop at first; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7r984PG7DY

If you don’t cancel out parasitic drag then your propeller only becomes a liability as speeds increase. Large props have great efficiency at the L/D Max, but anything beyond that you quickly lose performance. Jets on the other hand don’t have that limitation.

Bad radar signature (resonance), you won’t have agility, speed and the ability to carry a useful
radar and weapons all at the same time.

If you load it up with today’s avionics, expect it to be a blundering brick which will just be a sitting duck for real fighters.

A modern application for network centric warfare could be a propellor driven radar bus with a huge side facing radar like a tpy-2 along its side. Slow speed and long loiter times in combination with wingman drones. But you’d probably want your radar plane having the ability to escape if the need arises.

If helicopter can be lethal, i don’t see why not

I am under the impression that they have better loitering time…at least.

If helicopter can be lethal, i don’t see why not

Unlikely. If you read the inherent problems described on the wiki page, it would take an extremely brave person to go anywhere near the cockpit.

It certainly does not look like a winner.

I bet it could have easily gone supersonic in a modest dive.

Unlikely. If you read the inherent problems described on the wiki page, it would take an extremely brave person to go anywhere near the cockpit.

Pretty tall story there. What would the rotor tip speed be at supersonic flight speed? And so successful it never entered service. It honestly sounds like it was a flying plague of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech

It’s still never going to fly as fast or high as a jet at any rate.

I bet it could have easily gone supersonic in a modest dive.

On the contrary to official knowledge…a colonel of USAF ( as he introduced himself to me ) told me ( via e-mail ) he had flown F-84H supersonic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhSzReWTgs

He never returned to me when I asked more data.

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XFY-1 went 600 mph as well; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9pxxu1muyQ

Pretty tall story there. What would the rotor tip speed be at supersonic flight speed? And so successful it never entered service. It honestly sounds like it was a flying plague of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech

It’s still never going to fly as fast or high as a jet at any rate.

The jet-engined plane will always have the advantage at the merge. And of course the prop-engined plane relies on the jet-engined plane to actually be bothered stopping to fight them WVR. It may just take them out BVR with height and range advantage or simply fly over them and bomb their bases and C4I infrastructure and then fly back over them.

On the contrary to official knowledge…a colonel of USAF ( as he introduced himself to me ) told me ( via e-mail ) he had flown F-84H supersonic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhSzReWTgs

He never returned to me when I asked more data.

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XFY-1 went 600 mph as well; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9pxxu1muyQ

Much aerial warfare happens at night time surely? Most of Israel’s airstrikes against Syria are carried out at night I believe.

The jet-engined plane will always have the advantage at the merge. And of course the prop-engined plane relies on the jet-engined plane to actually be bothered stopping to fight them WVR. It may just take them out BVR with height and range advantage or simply fly over them and bomb their bases and C4I infrastructure and then fly back over them.

Many aeroplanes are fitted with a radio. Radio messages can be used to warn about enemies… from a radar operator etc ? For instance..: “Red Leader, Bogies at 2 o’clock high !”

Won’t help during the intensity of a WVR battle.

That looks similar to British Aerospace SABA from the eighties:
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It was meant as COIN aircraft with special attention given to shooting down helicopters. SABA used unducted fan though. Regular turbofan was also considered.

Some Polish Scorpion proposals were also turboprops.

She look beautiful

Surely the jet-engined aircraft would just stay high and come out of the sun.

Much aerial warfare happens at night time surely? Most of Israel’s airstrikes against Syria are carried out at night I believe.

Won’t help much when looking directly at the sun.

Many aeroplanes are fitted with a radio. Radio messages can be used to warn about enemies… from a radar operator etc ? For instance..: “Red Leader, Bogies at 2 o’clock high !”

What if the pilot uses sun glasses ?

Won’t help much when looking directly at the sun.

Surely the jet-engined aircraft would just stay high and come out of the sun.

What if the pilot uses sun glasses ?

Surely the jet-engined aircraft would just stay high and come out of the sun.

In my opinion, the best option of the “direct aviation support” apparatus would be a high-speed helicopter or convertiplane. The maximum speed of 500 – 700 km / h and vertical takeoff and landing. Then plane a horizontal takeoff and landing, propeller, will be interesting only as a training aircraft.

My favorite layout of a fighter from the future for the Second World War 🙂

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If you ducted those props…could it be like a “cold jet”…but still supersonic ?