Could India buy one of the British carriers?

If India is moving to CATOBAR via STOBAR I can’t see any interest in a carrier that has been outed as un-upgradable to cats for less than the cost of a new ship by the UK Defence Secretary.

With the switch back to F-35B then I don’t think that any carriers will be sold off as the decision would likely come from a Labour led Government and it was that party who originally ordered them and they will not want that embarrassment.

Well, both the remade Varyag and Gorshkov are about to come online so to speak. They will be followed by domestic designed and built vessels.,,,

In India’s case, ‘domestically’ designed with the help of tens of millions of dollars worth of design assistance from Italy.

I thought Indian govt had a serious budget deficit too. If they wanted to spend a large sum of money on another carrier, they probably should consider building it domestically.

China are developing their own design as are the Indians, although the Brazilians did put a request out for RFI for a new Carrier.

Well, both the remade Varyag and Gorshkov are about to come online so to speak. They will be followed by domestic designed and built vessels. In, say, 15 years these refurbished and converted (yet in many ways principally ‘old’) ships may pay off and become available for Brazil. Remember, the current Sao Paolo (Foch) first commissioned 1960 and recommissioned into the Brazilian Navy 2000 and as the example of Viraat as well as some past CVNs shows you could run such a ship 50 years or so.

Likely not since they are busy buying Russian and Italian carriers. I think the logistics would be a nightmare but then again this is India they are well known for being so random.

China bought Varyag and/but is building its own follow-ons domestically
India bought Gorshkov and/but is building its own follow-ons domestically

seeing as theres a likelihood the UK might just stick with one and India wanting to build a new larger one.. win win for both?

Sure, if the ship is built in India. OR if follow-ons are entirely built in India. Depends on how quick India wants it. If they are in a hurry, it might make sense to buy the carrier from UK, while simultaneous work starts in Cochin for number 2.

But rather unlikely imho.

Likely not since they are busy buying Russian and Italian carriers. I think the logistics would be a nightmare but then again this is India they are well known for being so random.

China are developing their own design as are the Indians, although the Brazilians did put a request out for RFI for a new Carrier.

You don’t say! But seriously, that makes those countries interesting as potential partners for Brazilian naval industry. And for those countries, it might help lower per unit cost (spread some of the development costs).

China are developing their own design as are the Indians, although the Brazilians did put a request out for RFI for a new Carrier.

As others have said India is already building one carrier and another will be one on the way after that. China will also be looking to build their own rather than buying one.

While France does need another carrier it is political suicide for them to buy one from the UK I’m not sure if they would even accept it if it was free.

Brazil is probably the most likely candidate for purchase of a carrier but I really hope they chose to go indigenous instead because I really do not want us to sell either CVF.

Seeing as Brazil is hosting chinese servicemen (not flyboys, though) for training on Sao Paolo, it would not surprise me if you see Brazil cooperating with China and/or India on a new carrier design. Then again, given the history of acquiring pre-owned foraign capotal ships, a surplus CVF would be a likely candidate (and Brazil could still earn a buck by allowing Chinese on board who would be keen to get a look, I’m sure.)

Opt for F35B , keep them both ( No need to ponce around with cats & traps now ) . Stick 12 of each aforementioned jet thingys on them . Then tootle around the world showing the flag , & sending the modern day equivilent of the ” Gun Boat ” to make some nation, with only a thin veneer of civilisation , run . And its hows your father!!! Business as usual Your Majesty ??

Budgets don’t work like that. If you don’t spend the full budget, it’s not like your salary where you keep the difference, what happens is the money is reallocated to something else like foreign aid to help old Cleggy in the polls!

Opt for F35B , keep them both ( No need to ponce around with cats & traps now ) . Stick 12 of each aforementioned jet thingys on them . Then tootle around the world showing the flag , & sending the modern day equivilent of the ” Gun Boat ” to make some nation, with only a thin veneer of civilisation , run . And its hows your father!!! Business as usual Your Majesty ??

As others have said India is already building one carrier and another will be one on the way after that. China will also be looking to build their own rather than buying one.

While France does need another carrier it is political suicide for them to buy one from the UK I’m not sure if they would even accept it if it was free.

Brazil is probably the most likely candidate for purchase of a carrier but I really hope they chose to go indigenous instead because I really do not want us to sell either CVF.

now if british have extra carrier they can sell it to China…
that will be interesting :diablo:

It would sooner end up in Brazil :rolleyes:

now if british have extra carrier they can sell it to China…
that will be interesting :diablo:

Maybe inputs/consultancy on catapult integration but definitely not a whole carrier.

PA-2?

India are building their own carriers, a country that wants to build it’s military infrastructure isn’t going to be interested in buying an aircraft carrier.