Need some informations about the following crash dates:
1)
Unknown date,
Time of crash: 9.40 a.m.
Code: P-GL
(two engines, maybe a Hampden Hereford?
2)
Date: Apr. 4th. 1941
Time of crash: 1.35 p.m.
A/C: Wellington
3)
Date: Nov. 05/06th. 1940
Crash location: Kiel
A/C: Page Hampden
Unit: 61th SQ. ??
4)
Date: July, 7th, 1940
Crash location. North of Kiel
A/C: Armstrong-Withworth (N1523 ? / N1496 ?)
Crew: 5 POW
5)
Date: Aug. 15th, 1941
A/C: Halifax
Serial: AE256
Greetings from Germany
Nils
By: Flood - 1st December 2004 at 01:08
thanks to all !
Yes, I have done a mistake of the date!! (sorry, I have so much dates to research here !)
It is the 8th/9th. August 1941 (Hampden Hereford, QR-? 2 POW, 2 KIA), so my research of crash actually.
Which must make it Handley Page Hampden I X3127, QR-_ of 61Sqn.
P/O JWW Graham PoW
Sgt LR Biddlecombe PoW
Sgt WD Hughes PoW
Sgt AC Nuttall RNZAF – probably died in the air, buried in Kiel War Cemetery.
Info from RAF Bomber Command Losses of WWII, Vol 2.
Flood
By: EN830 - 30th November 2004 at 23:40
I don’t think Hereford’s were ever used on operational bombing raids during WW2
By: Pathfinder - 30th November 2004 at 23:37
thanks to all !
Yes, I have done a mistake of the date!! (sorry, I have so much dates to research here !)
It is the 8th/9th. August 1941 (Hampden Hereford, QR-? 2 POW, 2 KIA), so my research of crash actually.
By: Flood - 30th November 2004 at 23:17
@flood:
sorry, its my mistake of date! the right date is the 8th. april 1941 !
The time is wrong too – nothing was lost in daylight on raids that day either…
Flood
By: EN830 - 30th November 2004 at 21:37
GL was the Squadron code for 185 Sqn, which flew Hampdens until May 1940
However on 28 September 1939, on the day that Mr Hitler was due in Kiel to present the Iron Cross to a U Boat Commander, a Blenheim 1V of 110 Sqn crashed near the city during a reconnaissance sortie to the area. Believed to have been shot down by fighter aircraft.
W/Co I McL Cameron RAAF
Sgt T C Hammond
AC1 T Fullerton
All are buried in the Reichwald Forest War Cemetery.
By: EN830 - 30th November 2004 at 21:21
Kiel wasn’t attacked on 15 August though Hannover Brunswick and Magdeburg were.
Kiel was attacked on 8/9 August 1941 when 2 Hampdens and 1 Whitley were lost.
10 Squadron Whitley V Z6815 ZA-
P/O M Littlewood
Sgt E Bayley
P/O J E Evans
Sgt R T Timms
Sgt N Moores
T/o Leeming 21.54, Crashed in target area. P/O Evans has no known grave, the rest are buried in Kiel War Cemetary.
61 Sqn Hampden 1 X3127 QR –
P/O J W W Graham POW
Sgt L R Biddlescombe POW
Sgt W D Hughes POW
Sgt A C Nuttall RNZAF
T/o 22.18 Norh Luffenham. Believed to have crashed near Kiel, Sgt Nuttall was reported to have been killed in the air, he is buried in Kiel War Cemetary.
61 Sqn Hampden 1 AE259 QR-
P/O Metcalfe
P/O McCulloch
Sgt Ashurst
Sgt McKeown
T/o 22.16 North Luffenham, Passed over an Allied convoy off Spurn Head and was shot at and damaged. The aircraft crash-landed 05.30 near Fosdyke on the N Bank of the Welland, 6 miles SSE of Boston, Lincolnshire.
The next raid on Kiel wasn’t until 31 August, a minor raid with no losses.
By: Pathfinder - 29th November 2004 at 23:42
@ Ian:
maybe it is a hampden, yes. dont know more…
@flood:
sorry, its my mistake of date! the right date is the 8th. april 1941 !
By: Flood - 29th November 2004 at 23:21
2)
Date: Apr. 4th. 1941
Time of crash: 1.35 p.m.
A/C: Wellington
Only daylight raids on the 4th April 1941 were along the French and Danish coasts, sinking one trawler, using 14 Blenheims for the loss of one.
Flood
By: EN830 - 29th November 2004 at 23:20
Pathfinder are you sure the last one is a Halifax, or maybe a Hampden ?
By: Pathfinder - 29th November 2004 at 23:10
thanks to Ian 🙂
now I must look in my database to complete !
By: EN830 - 29th November 2004 at 22:56
THe nearest date to April 4 1941 on which a raid was launched against Kiel 7 – 8 April. There were no operations to Kiel or that area on the 4th.
However on the 7- 8 April 4 aircraft were lost 2 Whitleys and 2 Wellingtons. 1 Whitely came down in Holland, the other was last heard of at approximately 5005N 0348E.
40 Sqn Wellington Ic R1007 BL-L
Sgt T Gamble
Sgt L E E Bundock
Sgt J Sharkey
Sgt N Benfield
Sgt F Sherratt
Sgt J S Crane
T/o 1955 Alconbury, Crashed in target area. All buried in Kiel War Cemetary
214 Sqn Wellington Ic R1380 BU-
Sgt R A Williams
Sgt K Manson RNZAF
Sgt R A Chatfield
Sgt R C Plummer
Sgt H R Easton RCAF
Sgt C H R Mercer
T/o Stradishall, Lost without trace. All are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.
By: EN830 - 29th November 2004 at 22:46
6-7 July 1940
102 Sqn Whitley V N1523 DY-B Operation to Kiel
P/O J M Lewis
P/O D F M MacKarness
Sgt J Fisk
Sgt L Askham
Sgt S Fieldhouse
All POW
T/o Driffield. All reported as prisoners of war, though P/O Lewis was struck by a trian and killed on 18 August 1943, he is buried in Poznan Old Garrison Cemetary, Poland.
By: EN830 - 29th November 2004 at 22:42
5/6 November
61 Sqn Hampden 1 P2082 QR-
S/L J H R Oldfield
Sgt R S E Hamilton
Sgt J I Moyes
Sgt A Robertson
T/o Hemswell for operations over Keil Bay. Crashed into the Kaiser Wilhelm Kanal. The Crew are buried in the Kiel War Cemetary.
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