February 11, 2013 at 10:52 pm
This photo in my collection has beaten me.
Question; what and where?
All I have is (possibly) 1941 and a German bomber. I am struggling to recognise the large ring at the rear of the big lump the soldier is looking at.
Any clues, anyone?
By: Arabella-Cox - 25th June 2016 at 12:37
I have a comprehensive file of archive material on this incident if you are interested?
One of the semi-detached houses had a big black ‘skid’ mark near the gable end caused by one of the tyres. Is it still there?
By: Whisper1 - 19th June 2016 at 21:13
One died in my roof . The other three were scattered with the wreckage.
By: Whisper1 - 19th June 2016 at 21:08
It is the house
By: Whisper1 - 19th June 2016 at 21:05
This is picture of a house 2 doors down from me. The plane crashed into the roof of my house killing the four crew. I have news clippings of the crash. It is a Junkers 88. Bines road partridge green
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th February 2013 at 18:17
There may have been several reasons for the crew not attempting to bale out.
They could have all been killed or incapacitated in the attack. They could have been preparing to abandon when the aircraft went out of control; remember, centrifugal force could have trapped them at their stations, anyway. Not only that, but damage to the aircraft could have also rendered exit impossible. Lots of reasons could exist for the crew not getting out.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th February 2013 at 18:01
The Crew
My apologies to the crew; I hadn’t meant to be flippant about their options for escape.
I wonder how accurate the report was stating that it did three orbits whilst on fire? You would have thought that at least some of them would have parachuted out, knowing the aircraft was burning and unlikely to make a successful forced-landing.
Presumably, whilst they were deliberating, the fire burned through critical structure and the aircraft then broke up and dived in.
Sad – and also a very nasty end.
Anon.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th February 2013 at 10:23
All four were killed in the aircraft.
Originally buried in grave U.291 at Horsham (Hills Road) Cemetery.
By: paulmcmillan - 13th February 2013 at 10:08
Bomber is
28.7.41 Ju 88A 4D+MK 2/KG 30 crashed at Bines Road, Partridge Green, Sussex after being Shot Down by Night Fighter
I cannot make my mind if there were 3 or 4 killed in this
I know the following were killed (all buried Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery) in this incident
Uffz Walter Dankenbrink
Oberfw Eitel-Friedrich Mielke
Uffz Josef Stempniewicz
Also maybe: Uffz O Haefker
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th February 2013 at 08:05
No. None of them survived, I’m afraid.
It might not have been a case of “having the sense” to jump. They may have been unable to, for whatever reason.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th February 2013 at 23:18
Crew?
Just as a matter of curiosity, do you know what happened to the crew? Did they have the sense to jump out whilst doing their three orbits whilst the aircraft was on fire?
Anon.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th February 2013 at 22:57
Yep…that must be it!
I think that a few doors along is the house that has the whacking great black ‘skid’ mark on the wall.
Well done, Paul.
They could probably do with you in Burma!!
By: paulmcmillan - 12th February 2013 at 21:30
Less than 24 hours from question to answer including picture of cottage as now and without anyone moving from their seat….. not bad
By: adrian_gray - 12th February 2013 at 21:01
I had a look on Google Earth and found this on street view Could this be the house? it is situated on the Bines Road Partridge Green.
Ian
Looks likely, doesn’t it, Ian? Well well, I seem to have sold Andy a pup here!:o
Adrian
By: Wellington285 - 12th February 2013 at 20:50
I had a look on Google Earth and found this on street view Could this be the house? it is situated on the Bines Road Partridge Green.
Ian
By: DC Page - 12th February 2013 at 17:12
Yes Andy after I saw Versuch’s post last night I thought that your picture does look more like a wheel. Here are two main wheels that look very similar to the ones mentioned. These are CASAs and not actual Heinkels, but they do look very much like the one in your picture.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th February 2013 at 14:12
Why does that not surprise me?
Thanks again!
By: paulmcmillan - 12th February 2013 at 13:45
Its a case of Google better Indexing IWM website than IWM can do
Once went to a presentation where someone showed me google better at tracking a Fed Ex parcel than Fed Ex website!
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th February 2013 at 13:40
Here is the photograph in my archive that I knew to be the Partridge Green incident, plus an extract from relevant CR.
Note main landing gear leg in foreground. The r/h end wall of the house on the left still has, I think, a big round black skid-mark made high up on the gable end by one of the bouncing tyres.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th February 2013 at 13:21
Aha!
I went into the IWM site and typed in HU73393….with no space between the HU and 7. That comes up with zilch.
Had I just Googled, and left a space, then I may have got somewhere.
Doh.
My print just had a caption which told it was a German bomber engine in a cottage garden. Whilst I had thought it may be Partridge Green, I couldn’t make a positive connection. I am familiar with the crash site and area, but the house does not ring any bells. I have other photos, too, that I’ll post in a moment.
By: RMR - 12th February 2013 at 13:14
Just Googled
IWM HU73393
Sorry. Couldn’t resist.
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