October 5, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Hi all,
up to date I have a new crash site located.
On this location I have found some interesting part from the cockpit area,
also a SILVER HALF-CROWN coin of 1942 in a very good condition.
In my copies of Kriegstagebücher of Marineflak-Brigade in Kiel, I have found the notice about the firing of a reconnaissance aircraft north-east of Kiel, on 21.01.1945 at 15.59, from Bf 109 fighter.
A old woman, the time witness, told me, she have seen the aircraft. It came down in a spin and crashed on the ground. One of the crew member was died, the other came (possibly) to POW. She have seen that the germans have pick up the survivor with a car. She told me also the aircraft came from England with two men on board.
Now I have a problem;
The parts from crash site came from a Mosquito (all parts with beginning part number “98”.
I hope someone can identify the parts of Altmeter and gauge of undercarriage to the type Mosquito.
The Bomber Command Losses have on this day only one missing Mosquito.
The aircraft was noted with the target Kassel / Germany, and lost without a trace. Both crew member are missing or died.
The crew member are:
Flying Officer G.I. Allan, RCAF, Awards: DFC
Squadron Leader R.S. Don, RAF, Awards: DFC
When one of the crew member survived the crash and came (possibly) to POW, and he (possibly) died during the transport or later, why have he no own grave, and why is he missed?
Who can help to clear the fate of this crew ?
Regards from Kiel
Nils
By: Pathfinder - 13th November 2006 at 14:54
Hi all,
at first I will thank for all the helpful postings here !
Up to date you can find my report about the shooting and crash of the Mossie NS509 north east of Kiel on my website: http://www.spurensuchesh.de/news.htm
Best regards from Kiel
Nils
By: Pathfinder - 10th October 2006 at 23:18
Thanks for the photos !
Maybe I can found next year more parts.
Now I hope to became a contact to Norman Malayney. But my question in the Mossie forum is not answered…
Nils
By: 682al - 9th October 2006 at 17:31
…and while I’m at it….
The dimming shield from a standard Air Ministry warning lamp. Like the button cover, they can be flipped up or down, as required. Yours has broken off, just below the hinge.
There were probably several of these in the Mosquito cockpit.
😉 😉 😉
By: 682al - 9th October 2006 at 17:18
Hi Nils,
From my first posting, the button cover is for a fire extinguisher switch. It normally guards the button from accidental operation and has to be flipped up, as seen on the left.
The second photo shows what I’m fairly certain is the lens from an ultra-violet cockpit lamp of the type shown to it’s right. These were an early attempt at introducing fluorescent lighting for instruments (doing away with the radium painted type). The Mosquito seems to have been one of the few aircraft to have used this system which uses mercury vapour discharge lamps to produce the u.v. light. You can sometimes spot these distinctive lamps in Mosquito cockpit photos.
By: Pathfinder - 9th October 2006 at 16:47
Thanks to 682al for the great work 😉
Can you give the use of this equipment, what kind of switch and lamp ?
Maybe you can also identify the latest items from crash site I have found the last day ?
The last photo show the distribution of parts. 80% of them are (plexi)glass parts.
Regards
Nils
By: 682al - 9th October 2006 at 13:35
😎 😎
By: 682al - 9th October 2006 at 13:28
😎
By: Tripehound - 9th October 2006 at 12:36
Thank you Mark that’s really useful info.
Keith
By: Pathfinder - 7th October 2006 at 09:30
Hi all,
at first, thanks for the postings !
Today I will use the last day to can search more parts on crash site, because the weather here is very rainy and on the crash site grows already colza…
To the last posting of picture one: the dimension is: ca. 16 x lenght, diameter ca. 11cm, smal diameter ca. 35mm. partnumber: R98023A
Nils
By: Bruce - 7th October 2006 at 08:03
PS – Isn’t the first part pictured one of the exhaust stubs?
No, its a cooling duct in the engine bay, i think for the compressors.
Bruce
By: mhuxt - 6th October 2006 at 22:43
To Mark:
I have wrote a mail to Norman Malayley, but the mail came back, because his mail address was not found…
Do you have an another mail address ?
Hi Nils:
The address is actually a bulletin board, where Norman posts relatively often. If you just click on the link, it should open up into the Mosquito Forum page, where you can start a new topic. Norman should see it there.
If that doesn’t work for you, email me, markhuxAThotmail.com (replace AT with @) and I’ll see if I can find another route for you.
Cheers,
Mark
PS – Isn’t the first part pictured one of the exhaust stubs?
By: mhuxt - 6th October 2006 at 22:39
Hi Tripehound:
Air Britain says there was a Mosquito of 1 OADU (Overseas Aircraft Delivery Unit I believe, perhaps another forumite can confirm) which “Crashed in sea off Isles of Scilly 21.1.45”. That seems to fit with your inherited information.
It was an NF.XIX, registration TA439. A number of the NF.XIXs in its series seem to have gone to 255 and 600 Squadrons, which I believe were in the Mediterranean at that point. Perhaps that’s where your relation was heading when the aircraft crashed.
Cheers,
Mark
By: Tripehound - 6th October 2006 at 17:18
Hi
I’m new to this forum, and came to this thread as I am researching the loss of my relation Ralph Taverham Ware, who according to information I’ve inherited was lost on 21.1.45 when his ‘Mosquito aircraft failed to reach destination’.
The cwgc confirms the date, but I can find no details of the a/c, which I’d like to model as a tribute.
I see he hasn’t been mentioned above, but wonder if there may be a connection?
By: Pathfinder - 6th October 2006 at 17:03
Part #12 is identified, source: http://www.mossie.org/images/Phil_Broad/RS712_int/IRS712-30.jpg
By: Pathfinder - 6th October 2006 at 15:29
To Mark:
I have wrote a mail to Norman Malayley, but the mail came back, because his mail address was not found…
Do you have an another mail address ?
By: Pathfinder - 6th October 2006 at 15:01
and the last; small part of felt?
By: Pathfinder - 6th October 2006 at 14:59
Thanks for the link 🙂
Here now the rest of intersting parts from crash site:
Regards
Nils
By: mhuxt - 6th October 2006 at 05:42
Hi again – sorry, should have mentioned that you’ll also likely find Juergen Haus over there. Some of the information I posted is actually from him – he may have the Missing Air Crew Report.
Cheers,
Mark
By: mhuxt - 6th October 2006 at 00:45
Hi Nils:
No worries – you can generally find Norman over at:
http://www.mossie.org/forum/list.php?f=1
However, I believe he was in the process of moving recently – not sure if he has internet access at the moment. You may have to try a couple of times.
Cheers,
Mark
By: Pathfinder - 6th October 2006 at 00:30
Hi Mark,
this is very interesting what you have wrote !
I thing we solved the mystery, because the aircraft came down in Emkendorf !
The copy of Kriegstagebuch show no notice about Mustangs during this time. It was only reported about a Bf 109 who have following and firing the Mossie…
I hope to can make a contact to the family of Jerry M. Roberts to send my result of research.
Do you have a mail of Norman Malayney ?
Thanks for the great information !
Regards
Nils