Croatian corvette design

That’s just you.

speak for yourself

Hey Zare, any news about Korcula and how it performed in the exercise?

BTW, the navy budget was increased and rebalanced… the corvettes should enter production very soon!!!:D

is it me or it seems that no one goes to keypublishing anymore LOL

That’s just you.

is it me or it seems that no one goes to keypublishing anymore LOL

The sketch apeared in a newspaper’s article which featured general informations about the ship and a interview with state secretary for these matters. I don’t know is it official or not, but it doesn’t matter. If these plans are followed(building starts before this year’s end), official pictures are soon to be out.

well, 78 meters isn’t exactly too long. The Gowind 200 is 103 meters long and 2000 tonnes, so this is much smaller and I would be surprised to see a hangar on these things. Although, as is written in the article, these ships may actually do patrols along the Otrant gates(the entrance in the adriatic) and venture in the Med maybe, so I guess a hangar would be a welcome addition to the design, but I doubt there’s enough room if this specifications are true indeed.

The ship know is planning to be around 80 meters since i last herd 2 days ago

No problem Argo, anytime. I expect to have that information within next few days.

Splendid. I’m eager to see how good/ or bad is Korcula compared to a proven design.

BTW, where are you from?

Dubrovnik:)

No problem Argo, anytime. I expect to have that information within next few days.

BTW, where are you from?

Thanks, Zare!

Any news on how the Korcula performed these days with Orion?

LM-51/MPMB-51 “Korcula” minehunter; discovery, location, identification, and destuction of sea mines via seadivers or remotely operated vehicle.

Dimensions : 25.70m / 6.8 m / 4.04m
Displacement : 180 tons
Draught : 2.64m
Maximum speed : 11 knots
Cruising speed : 10 knots
In-minehunting operation speed : 7 to 9 knots
Range at cruising speed : 1000 nautical miles
Complement : 14
Propulsion : two diesel motors @ 993 hp

Low magnetic signature; fibreglass enhanced polyester + non-magnetic materials hull, devices for automatical compensation of ship’s magnetism. Low acoustic signature; elastics-based propulsion system, low-noise construction parts, in-minehunting operation hydraulics drive system. Shock-resistant, ability to maintain position at any condition inside of 15m diameter circle.

Armament and equipement : monitoring systems, mechanical divergent minehunting parts, M-71 anti-air gun, Strela 2M/Igla anti-air missile system. Port and starboard monitoring sonars (Klein System 2000), bow sonar (Reson SeaBat 6012), minehunting operation control system (MOS CMS 2000), underwater tracking and guidance system (ORE Trackpoint II), navigation and positioning system (Trimble DGPS), underwater vehicle (Benthos Super SeaRover).

And has there been talks of dedicated minelayers for Croatian navy? looking from the map, the Dalmatian coastlines almoust cries for one for any navy operating there…

No dedicated minelayers are planned for the croatian navy, as far as I know. Our submarine Velebit I think had the option of laying mines, as well as our two amphibious minelayers, Cetina and Krka.

But I remember seeing in some Balkan forum time a go a bigger Croatian Minesweeper desing (line drawing) that seemed to be like 300-400 tonns…is there any details of that class?

It’s probably this design… No real details, let’s hope some information will emerge soon

well during WWII our tiny fleet tied the whole migthy Soviet fleet to its anchorns in Kronstad simply by making the whole norhtern Baltics a one huge minefield. And add to that the German mines, no wonder that there are still huge ammount of them left, despite our valiant and harsh post-war campaing to sweep them all of…

But I remember seeing in some Balkan forum time a go a bigger Croatian Minesweeper desing (line drawing) that seemed to be like 300-400 tonns…is there any details of that class?
And has there been talks of dedicated minelayers for Croatian navy? looking from the map, the Dalmatian coastlines almoust cries for one for any navy operating there…

well unfortuanetly we went for almoust 600 ton oceanic MCM desing that is best used in some distant operations than in our arhipegalo

No plans for a class of smaller minehunters?

If you need/want something larger, there’s a bigger 350-400 tonns minehunter in the works:D …

It seems that Croatia is actually gonna have a rather large number of minehunting/sweeping ships. Rumours are that NATO wants us for the job:) .
So, a class of bigger minehunters and additional 3 or even 4 ships of the Korcula class is planned.

It was quite interesting listening to the commander of the french minehunter Orion as he was interviewed on the TV. He said that even these days after every storm the french coast gets crowded with mines… I knew there were mines in the baltic from the ww2, but this came as a surprise to me…

Indeed, Gollevainen, let’s return to the original topic…

Today our new small minehunter LM-51 Korcula will be officially entering service in the croatian navy, and will immediately begin joint excercises with the French minehunter “Orion”, which is already moored in Lora. They will be practising searching and destroying underwatter mines. Will post pictures if I find them…

Orion in Lora

Korcula

And you Ustasa, are the one ruining this thread… I realise that you are young, but there are some good books on the subject. If you cannot restrain yourself, than please do not post here… The way you are communicating and the things you are saying are only casting the wrong light on my country and people…

Excuse me i dnt ruin this thread, it was u people complaing about my nick. I wanted to go foward with the cro navy. But u should ask ure buddys like zare ect… I dnt go and talk about ustasa’s and ww2 lol u should ask them not me

well unfortuanetly we went for almoust 600 ton oceanic MCM desing that is best used in some distant operations than in our arhipegalo:(

But I have to concratulate Kroatians for this ship, It was the first that came to my mind when I recovered from the shock that our own new MCM desing coused in me…looks and appears to be really suitable for Finnish requirment as well IMHO

Funny you should say that, because there are rumours that some baltic states are also interested in this design:) . Kuwait also.

Anyway, that helps a bit, how about the draugth? wery important factor of ship operating in restricted waters.

2,6 meters.

well in some level, a good warship needs to look hidious;)

Anyway, that helps a bit, how about the draugth? wery important factor of ship operating in restricted waters.

But I have to concratulate Kroatians for this ship, It was the first that came to my mind when I recovered from the shock that our own new MCM desing coused in me…looks and appears to be really suitable for Finnish requirment as well IMHO

bout that new minehunter, What are its meassures? What has it eaten (by looks it looks like really small seal eating awfully lot of herring ) What does it carry?

Indeed, it does look hiddeous:D … About the equpiment I can’t say much. Maybe Zare or somebody else can enlighten us… However, here is a interview with the designer of the ship… He doesn’t talk mouch about the equipment, but maybe it will be of some interest to you. There’s a bigger interview in croatian with more specific details, but I have doubt if I could properly translate it with all these fancy tehnical expressions… Here’s the english part of the interview from hrvatski vojnik website

Excerpts from the interview with Mislav Brlić, manager of the Small Counter-Mine Ship Project
With domestic knowledge and equipment to the unique Small Counter-Mine Ship

Who is involved in this project?
Holder of the contract for construction and equipping of the first Croatian ship for counter-mine battle is the shipyard Montmontaža-Greben from Vela Luka. The Institute for Naval Engineering made a design of the ship and the entire technical documentation. As a manufacturer, it also delivered several essential systems for operation of the ship. Of the major subcontractors, the Naval Centre for Electronics from Split (PCE) is included in the programme. It delivers the system of internal and external ship connections and part of the navigation system. The second subcontractor, the Engineering Consulting for Industrial Electronics (IEL) from Zagreb delivers the management and supervision system of the propulsive and ship systems. It is certainly necessary to mention the unselfish assistance of the MOD professional services that monitor construction of the ship on daily basis through activities of the expert committee. Their remarks and suggestions help the designer and the constructor to a large degree to remove in time the observed deficiencies or imperfections and build in additional improvements to construct a functional ship according to tactical and technical requirements.

What is hidden behind the name Small Counter-Mine Ship?
The small counter-mine ship (SCMS) represents a unique solution of such a ship in the world. With this project, Croatian experts met all tactical and technical requirements of the Croatian Navy so that a ship of small measurements carries out tasks of mine-sweeping and mine-hunting. In the world today, there is no ship of such measurements that would comprise mechanical mine-hunting and mine-sweeping assisted by towed mine-sweepers, underwater vessels and towed sonars. Its small measurements enable it to have smaller physical fields of the ship so that it is less detectable to mines. Besides searching and clearing mines, the Small Counter-Mine ship will, primarily because of its level of equipment, also serve for civilian purposes as control of maritime routes and searching sunken objects (ships, aircraft, helicopters), filming archaeological sites, etc.

Destroying mines is one of the most difficult tasks. Why are you so sure your ship will be able to do it?
The most important design criteria that have to be met in counter-mine ships, as resistance to impact created by explosion of the mine, ship’s small acoustic field, ship’s small magnetic field, small electromagnetic interference, safety of the crew and an overall good command of the ship are met by the given design solutions.

What equipment have you built into the SCMS?
The ship is packed with equipment and devices, from regular equipment that is necessary for stay of 14 crewmembers to sophisticated devices for mine hunting. The ship attracts special attention with is numerous electrical equipment. More than 11 km of special types of cables were built into the ship, including optical cables that transfer data for the command and control system. There is also a system for automatic compensation of the ship?s magnetism with its central cupboard in the engine-room and cables and coupling boxes all over the ship’s hull. The ship has two main diesel types of engines MTU 8V 183 TE62 with power of 365 kW in the main engine-room and three diesel generators MTU-ULJANIK (2×100 kVA, 1×30 kVA) that are in the auxiliary engine-room. All command of the counter-mine operations and navigation will be carried out from a room in the upper part of the ship where the pilot-house and combat-operational centre are situated. There is also a control panel for guidance of the counter-mine battle and an integral control panel that consists of five connected consoles for commanding the ship. Reading states of all ship?s systems will be done on control panels supported by more than one hundred sensors placed along the ship, from leaking sensor, sensor of the flow of liquids and gasses in various pipes, fire-prevention sensors to thermometers in storages of ammunition and explosive devices.

Hope it helps a bit…

The ship is 173 tonns of displacement, and 27 meters in length. Made from reinforced plastics and other fancy stuff which is hard to pronounce:D

About that new minehunter, What are its meassures? What has it eaten (by looks it looks like really small seal eating awfully lot of herring:D ) What does it carry?

Indeed, Gollevainen, let’s return to the original topic…

Today our new small minehunter LM-51 Korcula will be officially entering service in the croatian navy, and will immediately begin joint excercises with the French minehunter “Orion”, which is already moored in Lora. They will be practising searching and destroying underwatter mines. Will post pictures if I find them…

Orion in Lora

Korcula

And you Ustasa, are the one ruining this thread… I realise that you are young, but there are some good books on the subject. If you cannot restrain yourself, than please do not post here… The way you are communicating and the things you are saying are only casting the wrong light on my country and people…

Please can we get back to the croatian navy? Gloomy memories begun to come flashbacking when I see bunch of southern slavs engaging each other again…

please:) 🙂