March 18, 2005 at 11:21 pm
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/794381/L/
Didnt realise that runways could operate like this? If traffic was at its busiest can this be totaly safe?
By: Whiskey Delta - 22nd March 2005 at 14:28
LGA staggers their arrivals and departures but doesn’t use LAHSO as the runways are short enough even without expecting to hold short of the intersection.
In order to accept a LAHSO clearance we must have a specific LAHSO approach plate in our charts outlining our weight limit to complete the landing. Without the chart we can not accept any LAHSO clearance no matter how long the runway. Even if we were landing on a 10,000′ runway and the intersection would have left us with 9,900′ of available runway we still can not legally accept the clearance.
By: Whiskey Delta - 22nd March 2005 at 14:28
LGA staggers their arrivals and departures but doesn’t use LAHSO as the runways are short enough even without expecting to hold short of the intersection.
In order to accept a LAHSO clearance we must have a specific LAHSO approach plate in our charts outlining our weight limit to complete the landing. Without the chart we can not accept any LAHSO clearance no matter how long the runway. Even if we were landing on a 10,000′ runway and the intersection would have left us with 9,900′ of available runway we still can not legally accept the clearance.
By: Dantheman77 - 22nd March 2005 at 14:02
New York La Guardia operates the same kind of setup, but i think it’s dependant on what runways JFK is using, and possibly Newark too from what i remember on a programme about it on National Geographic
By: Dantheman77 - 22nd March 2005 at 14:02
New York La Guardia operates the same kind of setup, but i think it’s dependant on what runways JFK is using, and possibly Newark too from what i remember on a programme about it on National Geographic
By: wysiwyg - 22nd March 2005 at 12:23
They just use it to up the total number of movements they can achieve which I think is what you are effectively saying. Obviously there are limitations to it’s usage (primarily wind strength and direction). Sydney also uses it to spread the noise issue to reduce the effect on people living in the path of the main runway.
By: wysiwyg - 22nd March 2005 at 12:23
They just use it to up the total number of movements they can achieve which I think is what you are effectively saying. Obviously there are limitations to it’s usage (primarily wind strength and direction). Sydney also uses it to spread the noise issue to reduce the effect on people living in the path of the main runway.
By: DME - 21st March 2005 at 14:09
I take it this is only used at busy airports in order to reduce hold times? If the Delta has a headwind that would mean the BA would have a cross wind.
dme
By: DME - 21st March 2005 at 14:09
I take it this is only used at busy airports in order to reduce hold times? If the Delta has a headwind that would mean the BA would have a cross wind.
dme
By: Bmused55 - 21st March 2005 at 13:57
Yes but the BA 744 usually lands immediately after and they would then say the same thing about them!
he he
By: Bmused55 - 21st March 2005 at 13:57
Yes but the BA 744 usually lands immediately after and they would then say the same thing about them!
he he
By: wysiwyg - 21st March 2005 at 13:51
Yes but the BA 744 usually lands immediately after and they would then say the same thing about them!
By: wysiwyg - 21st March 2005 at 13:51
Yes but the BA 744 usually lands immediately after and they would then say the same thing about them!
By: Bmused55 - 21st March 2005 at 13:28
Very common in the States and also in Sydney. I’ve never heard it called Symops before, it’s referred to in the Jepp books as LAHSO (land and hold short operations). Even though the airfield might be using LAHSO when we arrive, we are not allowed to participate so it gets suspended for a few minutes until we land or depart. That’s the case for all UK airlines…it may be the case for any airline not from the country where it is occurring, I don’t know.
I can here the ATC at Sydney now
“Here comes that pesky Virgin to mess up our routine” :p lol
By: Bmused55 - 21st March 2005 at 13:28
Very common in the States and also in Sydney. I’ve never heard it called Symops before, it’s referred to in the Jepp books as LAHSO (land and hold short operations). Even though the airfield might be using LAHSO when we arrive, we are not allowed to participate so it gets suspended for a few minutes until we land or depart. That’s the case for all UK airlines…it may be the case for any airline not from the country where it is occurring, I don’t know.
I can here the ATC at Sydney now
“Here comes that pesky Virgin to mess up our routine” :p lol
By: wysiwyg - 21st March 2005 at 13:19
Very common in the States and also in Sydney. I’ve never heard it called Symops before, it’s referred to in the Jepp books as LAHSO (land and hold short operations). Even though the airfield might be using LAHSO when we arrive, we are not allowed to participate so it gets suspended for a few minutes until we land or depart. That’s the case for all UK airlines…it may be the case for any airline not from the country where it is occurring, I don’t know.
By: wysiwyg - 21st March 2005 at 13:19
Very common in the States and also in Sydney. I’ve never heard it called Symops before, it’s referred to in the Jepp books as LAHSO (land and hold short operations). Even though the airfield might be using LAHSO when we arrive, we are not allowed to participate so it gets suspended for a few minutes until we land or depart. That’s the case for all UK airlines…it may be the case for any airline not from the country where it is occurring, I don’t know.
By: Skymonster - 19th March 2005 at 05:32
Its fine… Telephone lens giving the appearance of compression (the guy who shot the pic is a first rate guy and wouldn’t photoshop it). If you’ve ever been to SFO, you’ll know there’s LOADS of distance in between the a.c.
Andy
By: Skymonster - 19th March 2005 at 05:32
Its fine… Telephone lens giving the appearance of compression (the guy who shot the pic is a first rate guy and wouldn’t photoshop it). If you’ve ever been to SFO, you’ll know there’s LOADS of distance in between the a.c.
Andy
By: Bmused55 - 19th March 2005 at 02:12
Looks like the effects of a telephoto lense to me.
Zoom in on an object and the background will look much closer than it is.
By: Bmused55 - 19th March 2005 at 02:12
Looks like the effects of a telephoto lense to me.
Zoom in on an object and the background will look much closer than it is.