CSA

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So (dare I say it), does EDI get the 319 or the 320? 😉

Any plans for CSA to replace the 310s?

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So (dare I say it), does EDI get the 319 or the 320? 😉

Any plans for CSA to replace the 310s?

i think its great news for CSA, CSA is a great airline and now with a new set of modern wings even better, just been on the CSA news website and found this picture!! looks great dont you think

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i think its great news for CSA, CSA is a great airline and now with a new set of modern wings even better, just been on the CSA news website and found this picture!! looks great dont you think

Caption Contest: “Ok number two, I’ll bet you a bottle of Staropramen I get to Glasgow before you get to Edinburgh!” 🙂

i think its great news for CSA, CSA is a great airline and now with a new set of modern wings even better, just been on the CSA news website and found this picture!! looks great dont you think

i think its great news for CSA, CSA is a great airline and now with a new set of modern wings even better, just been on the CSA news website and found this picture!! looks great dont you think

Next youll have LOT odering Boeings and Malev.Tut Tut two other airlines who I would imagine odering NGs in the future altough malev have already began replacing older 737s.

Next youll have LOT odering Boeings and Malev.Tut Tut two other airlines who I would imagine odering NGs in the future altough malev have already began replacing older 737s.

Beautifully put.

Beautifully put.

Is there but a slight chance that CSA might have chosen to purchase the Airbuses because it considers it to be the best option?

Could it be that it makes more financial sense for whatever reasons, regardless of existing fleet?

Was Easyjet ‘politically motivated’ to purchase A319s or should they perhaps be viewed as complete fools who don’t know the first thing about running an airline for buying the Airbuses when they had an all-Boeing fleet?

And why should joining the EU mean switching from Boeing to Airbus?

I won’t deny that sometimes there is political influence to purchase a product or the other, but I doubt it happens nearly as often as people suspect. If we are to take that road there are as much grounds to suspect that most Boeing sales to Asian and South American airlines might have been politically influenced as Airbus sales to European or Middle Eastern airlines.

Is there but a slight chance that CSA might have chosen to purchase the Airbuses because it considers it to be the best option?

Could it be that it makes more financial sense for whatever reasons, regardless of existing fleet?

Was Easyjet ‘politically motivated’ to purchase A319s or should they perhaps be viewed as complete fools who don’t know the first thing about running an airline for buying the Airbuses when they had an all-Boeing fleet?

And why should joining the EU mean switching from Boeing to Airbus?

I won’t deny that sometimes there is political influence to purchase a product or the other, but I doubt it happens nearly as often as people suspect. If we are to take that road there are as much grounds to suspect that most Boeing sales to Asian and South American airlines might have been politically influenced as Airbus sales to European or Middle Eastern airlines.

Makes no sense at first chlance. A 2nd look reveals the possilbe reason for it. The Skyteam alliance. CSA is a member of that airline and the largest European member of Skyteam is AF which has a large amount of airbusses. Alitalia is still rumoured to join Skyteam and they have more airbusses still.

As for CSA being totally Boeing… false. CSA has 3 or 4 A310s as well. Admittedly not the youngest of planes, but still going strong!

Why is it that whenever Airbus wins an order some people immediately claim that the order is obtained through political pressure and/or subsidizing?

You say Alitalia are rumoured to be joining Skyteam, but I have an In-Flight magazine from January 2003 which shows they are already in it. Have they dropped out? I know they want to join the Air France/KLM group but have been told to solve their financial issues first.

Makes no sense at first chlance. A 2nd look reveals the possilbe reason for it. The Skyteam alliance. CSA is a member of that airline and the largest European member of Skyteam is AF which has a large amount of airbusses. Alitalia is still rumoured to join Skyteam and they have more airbusses still.

As for CSA being totally Boeing… false. CSA has 3 or 4 A310s as well. Admittedly not the youngest of planes, but still going strong!

Why is it that whenever Airbus wins an order some people immediately claim that the order is obtained through political pressure and/or subsidizing?

You say Alitalia are rumoured to be joining Skyteam, but I have an In-Flight magazine from January 2003 which shows they are already in it. Have they dropped out? I know they want to join the Air France/KLM group but have been told to solve their financial issues first.

[QUOTE=Interflug62M]Lets be honest, none of us knows the long term strategy of the CSA management. My guess, and its only that, is that the airline is opting for the flexabilty that the commonality of the Airbus family offers across virtually its entire range

I would say your guess is correct

[QUOTE=Interflug62M]Lets be honest, none of us knows the long term strategy of the CSA management. My guess, and its only that, is that the airline is opting for the flexabilty that the commonality of the Airbus family offers across virtually its entire range

I would say your guess is correct

Lets be honest, none of us knows the long term strategy of the CSA management. My guess, and its only that, is that the airline is opting for the flexabilty that the commonality of the Airbus family offers across virtually its entire range, surely if your looking at an almost total fleet rollover in the coming years this has to be a major consideration for CSA or anyone else. Boeing simply does not have this level of compatability across its types with the possible exception of the 737 family, and even some of those versions are getting “long in the tooth”. For this reason alone I’m not surprised at the decision, Tarom made a similar one I seem to remember. IMO its indicative of the work that Boeing still has to do to secure orders of this kind, its too glib to call it political.

Lets be honest, none of us knows the long term strategy of the CSA management. My guess, and its only that, is that the airline is opting for the flexabilty that the commonality of the Airbus family offers across virtually its entire range, surely if your looking at an almost total fleet rollover in the coming years this has to be a major consideration for CSA or anyone else. Boeing simply does not have this level of compatability across its types with the possible exception of the 737 family, and even some of those versions are getting “long in the tooth”. For this reason alone I’m not surprised at the decision, Tarom made a similar one I seem to remember. IMO its indicative of the work that Boeing still has to do to secure orders of this kind, its too glib to call it political.

Makes no sense at first chlance. A 2nd look reveals the possilbe reason for it. The Skyteam alliance. CSA is a member of that airline and the largest European member of Skyteam is AF which has a large amount of airbusses. Alitalia is still rumoured to join Skyteam and they have more airbusses still.

As for CSA being totally Boeing… false. CSA has 3 or 4 A310s as well. Admittedly not the youngest of planes, but still going strong!

Why is it that whenever Airbus wins an order some people immediately claim that the order is obtained through political pressure and/or subsidizing?

I didn’t say they were totaly boeing. Just the Medium/Short haul fleet.
I don’t think that equiping with Airbus is a requirement of the SkyTeam alliance. AF also have a lot of Boeings, as do Delta.

I’m not trying to be pro this or that.. I’m apporaching this purely from a logical perspective.

The 737NG series was a logical choice. The facilities are there, very short crew cross training, part commonality, ground equipment update requirements minimal. Maintenance facilities are also in place. Engineers need a short “update” training course I beleive.

Now CSA will have to buy all new ground equipment or lease it from another airline, all their pilots will need to undergo complete retraining and they’ll need to find a new maintenance facility, or retrain their mechanics or hire new ones.

It simply doesn’t make sense.

OK, you can argue that Airbus offered a better price for their planes, but the costs of re equiping will simply cancel out any discount.

The only logical conclusion I can come to is that there is something else to it. Be it Political or extras thrown in… its not purely down to perfomance here folks.

Makes no sense at first chlance. A 2nd look reveals the possilbe reason for it. The Skyteam alliance. CSA is a member of that airline and the largest European member of Skyteam is AF which has a large amount of airbusses. Alitalia is still rumoured to join Skyteam and they have more airbusses still.

As for CSA being totally Boeing… false. CSA has 3 or 4 A310s as well. Admittedly not the youngest of planes, but still going strong!

Why is it that whenever Airbus wins an order some people immediately claim that the order is obtained through political pressure and/or subsidizing?

I didn’t say they were totaly boeing. Just the Medium/Short haul fleet.
I don’t think that equiping with Airbus is a requirement of the SkyTeam alliance. AF also have a lot of Boeings, as do Delta.

I’m not trying to be pro this or that.. I’m apporaching this purely from a logical perspective.

The 737NG series was a logical choice. The facilities are there, very short crew cross training, part commonality, ground equipment update requirements minimal. Maintenance facilities are also in place. Engineers need a short “update” training course I beleive.

Now CSA will have to buy all new ground equipment or lease it from another airline, all their pilots will need to undergo complete retraining and they’ll need to find a new maintenance facility, or retrain their mechanics or hire new ones.

It simply doesn’t make sense.

OK, you can argue that Airbus offered a better price for their planes, but the costs of re equiping will simply cancel out any discount.

The only logical conclusion I can come to is that there is something else to it. Be it Political or extras thrown in… its not purely down to perfomance here folks.