August 6, 2003 at 4:05 pm
Hi all
Was just looking through my boss’s holiday snaps from Cuba when, amazingly, I spotted a Sea Fury behind a tank! No other info, I just KNOW what I saw!
Will try to ask him more tomorrow, if I remember.
Anyone know anything about it?
By: merkle - 16th October 2008 at 11:17
I think Arkhipov should never have to put his hand in to his pocket to buy a drink ever again!:)
I Agree, I never realised it was that close , cripes that must have been a close call,
I cant understand the American commander for depth charging the sub, Intercept and track it yes, But “Depth Charge “:eek:, cripes he must have wanted WW3 ,
By: MSW - 16th October 2008 at 11:00
I think Arkhipov should never have to put his hand in to his pocket to buy a drink ever again!:)
By: merkle - 16th October 2008 at 08:23
does this answer your question ??
I dont think the Cubans , or even the Soviets had sunk a US Destroyer,
I imagine “IF” that had happened in 62 we would have had WW3,
heres some info i found on the US destroyer situation in oct 1962,
seems a soviet Sub, NOT Cuban sea furies had a US destroyer in there sights,
However, The soviets did not fire,
How Soviet sub officer saved world from nuclear conflict
Daily Telegraph (U.K.) – By David Rennie in Washington – 14/10/2002
Only the caution of a Soviet naval officer saved the world from a nuclear fight to the death during the Cuban missile crisis, an unprecedented meeting hosted by Fidel Castro was told this weekend.
Robert McNamara, who was the American defence secretary when the confrontation took place 40 years ago, said it could “easily” have become a full-scale conflict.
The world has long known that it came to the brink of war during the 13-day crisis after American spy planes confirmed that Moscow had deployed nuclear missiles in Cuba, only 100 miles from Florida.
Only later did the West discover how close it came during a naval skirmish between an American destroyer and a Soviet B-59 submarine off Cuba on Oct 27, 1962.
The destroyer dropped depth charges near the submarine to try to force it to surface, not knowing it had a nuclear-tipped torpedo.
Vadim Orlov, a member of the submarine crew, told the conference in Havana that the submarine was authorised to fire it if three officers agreed. The officers began a fierce, shouting debate over whether to sink the ship. Two of them said yes and the other said no.
“A guy named Arkhipov saved the world,” one of the conference co-hosts, Thomas Blanton, of George Washington University, told the Washington Post.
The conference studied thousands of newly declassified intelligence documents and photographs from American archives. Guests included many who were in leading positions. Besides Mr McNamara, there were other aides to President J F Kennedy: Arthur Schlesinger Jr and Theodore Sorensen. Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, also attended.
Despite the atmosphere of reconciliation, fostered in part by Mr Castro’s public condemnation of the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, for “misleading” Mr Kennedy over the presence of the missiles, old tensions still surfaced.
Dino Brugioni, a CIA analyst who interpreted the first U2 spy plane photographs of the missiles, argued fiercely with Russian delegates who said the Soviet Union never intended to fire them
By: DazDaMan - 7th August 2003 at 13:21
That’s the one, the numbers on the fuselage and tail match up, although the boss’s photo shows the plane in a sort of light blue/dark green camouflage like the colours Spitfire PT462 carried when owned by Charles Church! Repainted, I imagine.
Cheers for that.
By: Mark12 - 7th August 2003 at 13:10
Could there be two?
There could indeed………. Playa Giron – Bay of Pigs.
By: DazDaMan - 7th August 2003 at 12:29
TWO Cuban Furies?
Thanks for that pic. I had a look at the boss’s one, and the fuselage number is 541 (plus, it’s outdoors, behind a large tank).
Could there be two? I didn’t even know the Cubans had Sea Furies!
By: Mark V - 6th August 2003 at 18:38
Here it is….
By: Mark V - 6th August 2003 at 16:21
Sorry it took so long;)
By: DazDaMan - 6th August 2003 at 16:08
Jeez, that wasn’t half quick! I just saw the photo a minute ago, and put the thread up 30 seconds ago! 😉
By: Mark V - 6th August 2003 at 16:07
Yep, they have one in the museum on the island. I have a pic somewhere but until I get the hang of attaching them….