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Curious about Harvards

Could one of our learned contributors please explain why some Harvards qualify for PFA permit to fly status and others fly on C of As. I understand the basic principles of Permit to Fly vs C of A, however I am puzzled how one type can qualify for both categories.
Thanks in anticipation
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By: Willip26 - 22nd June 2007 at 20:26

I thought G-BKRA was the first (or among the first) Harvard to start operating pleasure flights. It still flies even if it is missing from the line- up here, right?

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Certainly does and it was still at Shoreham as of last weekend.

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By: T J Johansen - 22nd June 2007 at 18:29

I thought G-BKRA was the first (or among the first) Harvard to start operating pleasure flights. It still flies even if it is missing from the line- up here, right?

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 22nd June 2007 at 17:18

[QUOTE=AvgasDinosaur;1124007]Permit to fly -:G- AZBN, G-BBHK, G-BGOR, G-BICE, G-BJST, G-BRLV, G-BTXI, G-BUKY, G-BWUL, G-CTKL, G-ELMH AND G-JUDI

C of A -: G-AZSC G-BGPB
Neither Cof A or Permit at the moment -: G-BRVG, G-BZHL, G-CCOY, G-CPPM, G-HRVD

-CCOY, -CPPM and -HRVD are under rebuild as is -TOMC (not noted) 😉

Also DDMV not mentioned which is on a CofA i think…

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By: AvgasDinosaur - 7th June 2007 at 21:09

Permit to fly -:G- AZBN, G-BBHK, G-BGOR, G-BICE, G-BJST, G-BRLV, G-BTXI, G-BUKY, G-BWUL, G-CTKL, G-ELMH AND G-JUDI

C of A -: G-AZSC G-BGPB
Neither Cof A or Permit at the moment -: G-BRVG, G-BZHL, G-CCOY, G-CPPM, G-HRVD
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Examples
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-AZBN
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-AZSC
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By: Yak 11 Fan - 7th June 2007 at 00:31

Yes CAA Permit, te ones with a CofA are more likely to be used for commercial purposes such as pleasure flying and flight training.

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By: BlueRobin - 6th June 2007 at 23:56

If any are on Permit, it would be a CAA Permit, surely?

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By: Propstrike - 6th June 2007 at 22:37

I am almost certain that the Harvard/T6/SNJ is NOT operated on a permit under the auspices of the PFA.

Even the lowly ( in HP ) Auster is presently a marginal case, and may yet be required to have a C of A.

If you MUST have something a bit ‘warbirdy’ and want to have it on a PFA permit, then the P47 or FW 190 is the way to go – Scale replicas, of course!
Perhaps even one of those Spitfire MK26 2-seaters.

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