http://www.ufocasebook.com/2010/cacrash.html
Is it a secret stealth aircraft or possibly an alien craft ?
What I find odd about this report is the lack of an accurate location, “Google Earth co-ordinates etc”.
Whenever there is an air crash details appear almost instantly on the net. Surely the burn marks referred to would still be visible now to
interested parties, newsmedia etc less than 10 days after the incident.
If something has hit a hill in public view how come no popular press coverage?
It could of course be a U.A.V. in which case with no fatalities and no survivors
and no “heroic pilot wrestles with controls to avoid doomed school” it will be of less interest to tabloid journalists.
I find extremely odd the observed possible use of oxy-acetylene type
cutting gear, I have never seen or heard of its use at an aircrash
site, with all that fuel and possibly munitions around. If it is a
stealthy type then using it around those exotic materials is even less
of a good idea. Remember the toxic burn pits at Groom Lake, makes me
think setting high heat to these materials is probably not a good
plan. Any fire fighters out there in a position to comment.
http://www.fas.org/irp/overhead/ikonos_040400_overview_04-f.htm
http://www.alienjs.com/ufo/txt/lake/177.htm
It is even less of a good idea if you are uncertain of the nature or origin (alien, foreign or unknown) of the material ! !
However would such aggressive old fashioned technology be required on a current state of the art ( assuming it is terrestrial in origin)
airframe? Would you require intense heat cutting equipment to free the pilot of an F-22 or F-35 or Typhoon for example?
Our local fire brigade use huge cutting shears some even air or hydraulic powered to cut open cars, or a power disc saw with water misting to eliminate sparks.
Could the “Its trying to lift off” be the last vestiges of an autopilot system trying in vain to return to a flight plan or pre planned mission profile?
I.I.R.C. one of the highly automated airliner twin jets B777/A330 or similar trying to relaunch the aircraft on landing due to a fault in the undercarriage micro switch circuit, the system “thought” the aircraft was too low and wasn’t “aware” the aircraft had landed result crew human braking hard and
trying to deploy reverse thrust vs crew electronic selecting maximum thrust to climb out and abort attempted landing ?
Please don’t flame me I didn’t write the report, it would appear that something crashed there.
I understand that oxy-acetylene burns at about 3,300 C is that high enough to destroy or damage F.D.R. or C.V.R ?
Your comments and observations appreciated.
Be lucky
David
By: ZRX61 - 10th September 2010 at 22:00
A *mountain* just North of Fresno?? Are they kidding??? That entire area is so flat it makes the Fens look like the Himalayas…
By: Grey Area - 10th September 2010 at 21:00
Ah, but these might have been black helicopters, Mr B….. 😮
By: J Boyle - 10th September 2010 at 19:41
Such craft were seen in Canada earlier this week allegedly being fired upon by helicopters….
Does Canada have any armed helicopters?
No Cobras or Apaches….so unless they have miniguns on their Bell 412s, I’d say it didn’t happen.
By: Creaking Door - 10th September 2010 at 09:32
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2010/cacrash.html
Is it a secret stealth aircraft or possibly an alien craft?
By Chris Capps
UFO reports have been taking a dramatic turn lately with more witnesses describing events related to a sort of conflict between military forces and large black triangular craft.
Such craft were seen in Canada earlier this week allegedly being fired upon by helicopters and another was spotted near Fresno, California, crashed into the side of a mountain with military vehicles quickly surrounding it. What uncertainty does this bear for the future?
When MUFON’s Jeffrey Gonzalez received a phone call on MUFON’s 24 hour hotline, what he heard sounded at first like one of the most historically significant UFO sightings since the Roswell incident, but carried with it a far more sinister undertone given other recent sightings of human conflict with these mysterious craft.
With witnesses screaming in the background, “It’s trying to take off, it’s trying to lift!” Mr. Gonzalez learned that witnesses had seen a black triangular craft crashed into the side of a mountain at the location just north of Fresno.
Wasting no time, Gonzalez sprang into action and arrived at the scene where the witnesses had called from. What he observed were three white lights coming from the hillside, and several vehicles descending on the object through the rough terrain.
From his position on the mountain he then witnessed a light similar to an arc welder used to cut through metal and in automobile production.
Gonzalez speculates that the craft may have been undergoing repairs or being torn through by the welders in order to transport it in more easy to manage pieces.
By the light of day, the investigator left behind reported seeing a peculiar stingray-shaped vessel in front of an abandoned shack on the mountain accompanied by two massive burn marks on the hill.
If there is a conflict ongoing between military forces and these mysterious triangular aircraft several questions need to be addressed. First, what is the nature of the conflict? Is it a serious assault or could they possibly be part of some sort of clandestine training program or war game scenario?
Second, if the craft are not part of the US military and the conflict is as genuine as many witnesses are suggesting, what purpose do the triangular craft serve and who are their occupants?
Of course this is even assuming they have occupants. And of course the most general and possibly most important question that is ever present remains, what are the craft doing?
The scene described has two possible scenarios that could lead up to it, and either one without additional disputing evidence seems at least possible at this point.
Either one, the craft was a test vehicle that underwent some sort of malfunction and was grounded for some reason, or two it was actually engaged in some sort of mission.
And if the second scenario is true, what happened to the occupants of the craft?
And will there be more looking for them soon?
Perhaps the most disturbing bit of evidence suggesting the second scenario might be true comes in the form of the witness testimony overheard by Gonzalez, “It’s trying to take off, it’s trying to lift!”
Unless it was in possibly hostile territory, why would it risk exposure and further malfunctions by trying to take off so quickly after having crashed rather than wait for assistance from the ground?
Thanks for posting that; it is the funniest thing I’ve read in absolutely ages! 😀
By: pagen01 - 10th September 2010 at 08:55
or possibly an alien craft ?
No, because alien craft don’t exist.
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th September 2010 at 08:16
Reported in some quarters as a plane crash except none reported missing, cover story says it was a ‘gas explosion’ (sic)….
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By: Grey Area - 10th September 2010 at 06:13
Oh. Is he not a politician, then? :diablo:
By: J Boyle - 10th September 2010 at 00:49
Is this what the first link is talking about? (though the dates don’t match…)
I hate to disiillusion the “I want to believe croud” but it was a Boeing UAV. It was listed in the daily FAA accident database the following day. It has since been removed because it didn’t have an N-number.
The crash was reported in Aviation Week and Flight International as well.
In short, they’re nuts if they think the military has the time, people, or inclination to seal off the crash sites of imaginary UFOs….and keep it from the media. Besides, Obama promised us an open government. I’m sure he wouldn’t lie.
By: tornado64 - 1st September 2010 at 15:56
i personaly believe u.f.o. stories are bunk !!
whilst not believing we are in space alone i believe we as others will only ever have the resources to visit our own doorsteps
however if you look at the development of flight and the decades some of the wierd and wonderful designs first flew
is it any coincidence that the hieght of u.f.o. fever was from the 50’s till the 80’s
we only see now what was penned in the 80’s 90’s so what secret stuff are they working on now that u.f.o. stories are a far better cover up than giving design secrets away !!
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