Hello All,
Joe Baugher’s site at http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p6.html states that at least one Curtiss P-6E survived until 1942. Does anyone one know the serial number of the machine in question and with which unit it was based?
Regards,
Clint
By: Bager1968 - 10th April 2010 at 14:03
True… most of his site is written from published works, and little is his own research.
At the bottom of each page is a list of the sources of data used for that page… I’m mentioned as the last entry on the A-7E:
Sources:
1. American Combat Planes, 3rd Edition, Ray Wagner, Doubleday, 1982.
2. United States Navy Aircraft Since 1911, GordonSwanborough and Peter M. Bowers, Naval Institute Press, 1990.
3. Corsair–Sterling Ending To a Glorious Naval Career, Stephane Nocolaou, Air Fan International, Vol 1, No. 6, September 1996.
4. E-mail from Robert Manley on production blocks for A-7s
5. E-mail from Jonathan Alexander on FLIR installation on A-7E.
I was a USMC FLIR tech on A-6Es, and in 1984 I worked with the USN A-7E FLIR techs at MCAS Iwakuni, Japan… which is how I knew he had gotten bum data from one of his sources. I was able to find a reference on-line to back me up, and sent it to him.
By: J Boyle - 9th April 2010 at 14:50
Nothing against Mr. Baugher, I appreciate his work and love his site, but he may have just been passing on information from another source.
Peter M. Bower’s authoritative Curtiss Aircraft 1907-1947, Putnam, 1979, says only… “One survived until 1942.” Pg. 260.
If Bowers had known anything substancial…or if the plane was in fact airworthy and operational, I suspect he would have mentioned it.
By: Bager1968 - 9th April 2010 at 13:03
Same here, when I sent him a correction on info for the A-7E Corsair II.
By: paulmcmillan - 9th April 2010 at 08:45
Clint
Why don’t you eamil Joe Baugher for a source of his info!
He has always replied to me before when I have sent updates
Paul
By: markb - 9th April 2010 at 01:37
Dayton example appears to have been privately owned prior to restoration in the ealy ’60s.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=337
By: J Boyle - 8th April 2010 at 23:49
If it survived in USAAF service until 1942, it was probably either a maintence trainer…or less likely (spares would have hard to come by) but possible, a station “hack”.
If it was the former, it may not have belonged to a unit per se.
If the latter, it may have been attached to an air base group or something similar, again not an operational squadron.
If you look at Braugher’s 1930s serial history for P-6Es…none are listed as surviving in Army service.
A few seem to have gone to aviation trade schools.
By: RMAllnutt - 8th April 2010 at 23:03
No idea on which airframe this is, but there are two substantial P-6E’s extant. One is the fully restored example (32-261) at the National Museum of the US Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. The other recently came to light in a barn belonging to the estate of Jack Taft in Jackson, Michigan. I have yet to see photographs of it, but it is supposed to consist of the fuselage, and an original engine.
Cheers,
Richard
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