Dear old Granny

1. What sort of message does their failure to prosecute give to anyone else who fancies sending a small dog into orbit ?

The Russians didn’t have a problem doing that, Oh and that dog died as well:mad:

So now I’m “elderly”? I’ve gone right off you Steve.

I thought you’d bite…it’s a term of endearment coming from me…i think you’ll find we’re around the same vintage Anne so what does that make me???a silly old sod

haha 😀

I have a yorkshire terrier, he has a great character about him.

I prefer my gigantic German Shepherd. I’d like to see the postman try kick him! 😀

Paul

bumblebee that is pretty sick what the postman did and the fact the RSPCA wouldnt do anything is just dreadful. So its okay to kill animals aslong as they dont suffer? Weird, because when a human gets killed instantly its still morally wrong and referred to as murder..:rolleyes:

I have a yorkshire terrier, he has a great character about him.

Sorry BB, but you put an image in my head, a small yappie souring skyward conjures up a comical scene. There’s wine and popcorn on my screen.

But, yes…he should have got done.

1. Yorkies are far more than “small yappies”. 2. Leave your slovenly housekeeping out of the discussion. 3. What sort of message does their failure to prosecute give to anyone else who fancies sending a small dog into orbit ?

If murder is “The unlawful killing of one human blah blah blah……” then why oh why are drunk drivers not done for murder when the kill?

I agree with you, old shape.

The charge should be manslaughter IMHO, as it would be rather difficult to prove intent and malice aforethought in those circumstances.

So now I’m “elderly”? I’ve gone right off you Steve.A postman recently kicked a small Yorkshire terrier so hard that it flew through the air,hit its head and died.The RSPCA refused to prosecute him because the dog had died instantly,and so “hadn’t suffered”.The miserable sod got away with murder,in my opinion,but then I’m biased because I used to have Yorkies.

Sorry BB, but you put an image in my head, a small yappie souring skyward conjures up a comical scene. There’s wine and popcorn on my screen.

But, yes…he should have got done.

It’s a very emotive issue…however i must agree… you just can’t take the law into your own hands and go around smacking elderly ladies (sorry Anne) no matter how heinous her crime

So now I’m “elderly”? I’ve gone right off you Steve.A postman recently kicked a small Yorkshire terrier so hard that it flew through the air,hit its head and died.The RSPCA refused to prosecute him because the dog had died instantly,and so “hadn’t suffered”.The miserable sod got away with murder,in my opinion,but then I’m biased because I used to have Yorkies.

BTW, I am not an anti drink type, in fact I’m a total pi55 artist when I’m allowed out LoL.

You as well eh? 😀

Paul

Hey PMN, I wasnee replying to thee per se.

It was the general discussion on the actual/perceived/street versions of the word.

If murder is “The unlawful killing of one human blah blah blah……” then why oh why are drunk drivers not done for murder when the kill?
ONE drink, and your judgement is impaired, especially if tired. You get in a car knowing this….even though you think you are OK at 2 pints.
So, if you cause an accident and then a death…..You knew the consequences before you started….etc.
It would be bally hard to prove I’m sure. Discuss.

BTW, I am not an anti drink type, in fact I’m a total pi55 artist when I’m allowed out LoL.

But a cat, loving as they are, is a cat, several layers down the food chain from we humans, hence it isn’t murder.

You’re not paying attention to my words, Your Old Shapeness. In this context the actual dictionary definition of the word ‘murder’ isn’t something that concerns me. I said I can understand people using that word because of its strength and severity, and because of that strength and severity a certain amount of anger is expressed; again, I’d be using the term ‘murder’ had it been my cat.

‘The old witch killed my cat’.

‘The old witch murdered my cat’.

Which has the most impact and expresses the most anger? Not the first!

Paul

P.S. I have a Californian King snake, and you’re right… I wouldn’t really want to cuddle it!

As a general figure of speech I don’t see anything whatsoever wrong in referring to it as murder, whether to do so is in line with the actual definition or not. Murder is a very strong word, and in this context perfectly describes the anger many feel towards this womans dispicable actions.

I’d be calling it murder as well if it were my little furball that was… Well… Murdered.

Paul

Kitticide.
(I’ll get me coat)

Nowthen, I’m a bit of a supporter of a vigilante action, when necessary and serious. Like a war or kid killers. But a cat, loving as they are, is a cat, several layers down the food chain from we humans, hence it isn’t murder. I do not care for the cat…I do care a great deal for the welfare of the child that loved the cat. Still no excuse for the behaviour of the miserable old bag.
However, as we are the “Leaders” of the planet, we have a responsibility to the lower beings like cats. (But not rats or roaches!). And, as a cat is a pet which is actually emotionally involved with a family, and is somewhat domesticated it should carry a bigger sentance than “say” cruelty to a pet snake.
Apols to snake keepers, but a snake doesn’t run to greet you at the door after work, nor do you cuddle up to it as a child would to a cat.

Absolutely, which is why I’m glad someone else smacked the old witch! 😀

Paul

F*ckin’ A!

😀

Kittens aren’t human beings. Murder involves the killing of a human being.

As a general figure of speech I don’t see anything whatsoever wrong in referring to it as murder, whether to do so is in line with the actual definition or not. Murder is a very strong word, and in this context perfectly describes the anger many feel towards this womans dispicable actions.

I’d be calling it murder as well if it were my little furball that was… Well… Murdered.

Paul

Yes, what is it classed as if its not murder? She tortured and killed the kitten.

Kittens aren’t human beings. Murder involves the killing of a human being.

Isnt it possible to go to prison for abusing animals?

It most certainly is, and quite rightly so. Under the terms of the Animal Welfare Act 2006, anyone who is cruel to an animal can be banned from owning animals, fined up to £20,000 and/or sent to prison for up to 12 months.

Isnt it possible to go to prison for abusing animals?

Yes it is. Cruelty to animals is a very serious matter, and rightfully so!

Paul

Yes, what is it classed as if its not murder? She tortured and killed the kitten.

Isnt it possible to go to prison for abusing animals?

On a point of order, EGTC, murder is defined as “The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.” (Dictionary.com)

Killing an animal in the circumstances described in this thread is a completely inexcusable act, but it is NOT murder.

I suspect you are entirely correct on this matter but What would the killing or slaying of an innocent animal be termed as then. Murder is certainly a very good way and describing it as. Anyone any ideas.

Anyone and everyone who knowingly breaks the law should expect to be punished for it.

Absolutely, which is why I’m glad someone else smacked the old witch! 😀

Paul