Dec 7 1941…and a carrier in port…

いかに今日あるかこんにちは、及び。私は非常に悪いイギリスの海の激怒の代りに優秀な日本語を飛ばすためにゼロ機の戦闘機名誉を与えられる価値がないアメリカのwarbird の操縦者である。

Stephensan

still slightly amazed that our other carriers were as close as they were and were’nt discovered by Jap forces…maybe just a little luck on our part, like at Midway?

Mark

Hi Mark,

After the attack the Pearl Harbor task force where broken up into their own units. The Combined Carrier Fleet was only used for this one attack.

Second Carrier Division was the HMJS Soryu and Hiryu
Fifth Carrier Division was the HMJS Shokaku and Zuikaku
First Carrier Division was HMJS Akagi and Kaga

After the attack Fifth division was detach to help with the Formusa operations while Second Division was sent to Wake Island while the first Division proceed to Home Waters. The only carriers that the US Carriers might have come across would have been Fifth Division as they broke off and ran for Formosa on and about Dec.8.

Hope this helps some what.

Cheers
RER

I remember Final Countdown and I liked it….interesting plot, good flying, and I love ‘what if’ movies like that.

I was also not aware that we had that many carriers at that point in the war and I arrive at the same conclusion…we would’ve made it through on what we had until more arrived, we would have just planned differently…don’t know if, however, after being attacked by the Japs ANY carrier that was caught at Pearl would have been rebuilt, since they would have made it the CENTER of their attack…

Still slightly amazed that our other carriers were as close as they were and were’nt discovered by Jap forces…maybe just a little luck on our part, like at Midway?

Mark

Final Countdown, and it was an F-14 that shot down the Zero. Neat movie.

We would have survived had we lost a carrier at Pearl, but I think battles may have been planned differently. Like all things, it would have changed all battles that followed. But unless they really just blew it to smithereens, like most of the important ships sunk at Pearl, it woiuld have been raised and rebuilt, so it would only delay the inevitable.

Many thanks. I’ll look out for it.
mmitch.

There was a fictional film about the USS Nimitz going through a bad storm that turned out to be a time warp. It ended up just before the Pearl Harbour attack and set about trying to change history. The bit I always remember is the Japanese pilot who has just been shot down by a Phantom (?) and is landed on the deck by a helio! But I can’t remember the title?
mmitch.

Final Countdown, and it was an F-14 that shot down the Zero. Neat movie.

We would have survived had we lost a carrier at Pearl, but I think battles may have been planned differently. Like all things, it would have changed all battles that followed. But unless they really just blew it to smithereens, like most of the important ships sunk at Pearl, it woiuld have been raised and rebuilt, so it would only delay the inevitable.

There was a fictional film about the USS Nimitz going through a bad storm that turned out to be a time warp. It ended up just before the Pearl Harbour attack and set about trying to change history. The bit I always remember is the Japanese pilot who has just been shot down by a Phantom (?) and is landed on the deck by a helio! But I can’t remember the title?
mmitch.

I didn’t really the US had that many carriers at 1941.
Thanks Rob.

Cheers
TNZ

Hmmmm….we might have survived after all….

So very little difference if one was lost.

Hi Mark,

To answer your Question on the Location of the US Carriers

USS Sarataga CV-3 was moored at NAS North Island
USS Lexington CV-2 was 425 miles SE of Midway
USS Enterprise CV-6 was 200 W of Pearl Harbor
USS Horent CV-8 was in Norfolk
USS long Island CVE-1 in the Alantic
USS Ranger CV-4 Moored in Casco Bay
USS Yorktown CV-5 on its way to Pearl Harbor
USS Wasp CV-7 Ferrying Aircraft to England

Their you go Mark all the US Carriers and to answer your question we could have lost an Carrier since Both the Hornet and Wasp where on the East Coast also three Essex class carriers would have been avaible earlier they would have been the following,

USS Essex CV-9
USS YorktownII CV-10
USS Intrepid CV-11
USS HornetII CV-12

Escort carriers that would have been avaible in early 1942

USS Bogue CVE-9
USS Card CVE-11
USS Copahee CVE-12
USS Core CVE-13

Cheers
RER

The cold and lack of hockey is affecting your brain, James….should’nt you move to warmer climes….like Bora Bora?

looking for WMD? 😀