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Deepwater Update

Not really a military topic, but does anyone have an update on the USCG’s Deepwater program?

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By: tiddles - 8th March 2008 at 06:47

Senator Grills Allen on Coast Guard Budget
By philip ewing
Published: 6 Mar 16:00 EST (11:00 GMT) Print | Email

U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen went to Capitol Hill on March 6 to make his case for Congress to fully fund his $9.3 billion fiscal 2009 budget request. But the tales of worn-out ships and overworked Coast Guardsmen that Allen has used elsewhere seemed to earn him little sympathy from Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., chairwoman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation subcommittee on oceans, atmosphere, fisheries and Coast Guard, who asked pointed questions about the lifesaving service’s $24 billion recapitalization portfolio, Deepwater.

In a wide-ranging session, Cantwell said she was worried about the potential for structural problems aboard the first national security cutter, the Bertholf; about the ship’s command and communications suite; that the Coast Guard might not be able to get a refund from its contractors if the cutter were to have endemic problems; about the Coast Guard’s capacity to operate in the Arctic; and that the Coast Guard was spending too much on its new HC-144A Ocean Sentry maritime patrol aircraft.

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“Given all the problems with Deepwater, given all the problems we still would tend to think we haven’t seen yet … we want to make sure that all the assets the Coast Guard is seeking have a proper amount of oversight and attention so we don’t run into the same problems with these assets as with the national security cutters,” Cantwell said of the Ocean Sentry and the other new Deepwater vessels and aircraft.

In each case, Allen acknowledged Cantwell’s concerns or explained that he thought Coast Guardsmen had taken the best measures to resolve the problems. He reiterated his enthusiasm for the Bertholf as a highly capable new ship, explained that the Ocean Sentry had played a crucial role recently in rescuing an Air Force pilot after two F-15s collided over the Gulf of Mexico and said generally that he thought the Coast Guard had turned a corner in managing Deepwater.

Stephen Caldwell, director of homeland security and justice investigations for the Government Accountability Office, said he mostly agreed that the Coast Guard was doing better in managing its acquisitions. He appeared with Allen and released a new GAO report on the fiscal 2009 Coast Guard budget at the subcommittee hearing.

During the hearing, Cantwell referred often to the Coast Guard “Alternatives Analysis” report, ordered last year after the previous wave of Deepwater criticism and finished in February, which suggests that if the Coast Guard picks a good design for its new Offshore Patrol Cutter, it might need two fewer National Security Cutters, which could cut costs. Cantwell told Allen she wanted his assurance that the Coast Guard would control the costs of the OPC project and make sure it retained the option to get money back from contractors if they made mistakes while building the ship.

The reason, she said, was that she worried about the Bertholf’s structural ability to ride in rough seas after earlier reports that the ship might be prone to stress problems or cracking. She told Allen she didn’t want the Coast Guard to go forward with what it knew was a “flawed design.”

Allen said he didn’t think the design was flawed, and he assured Cantwell that the design modifications to the Bertholf and the second NSC, the Waesche, were accounted for when the Coast Guard awarded the contract for the third ship, the Hamilton. Still, Cantwell said she was concerned that officials were “deferring a flawed design to a later year.”

Cantwell raised other points, including a worry that the Coast Guard wouldn’t be able to cope with a longer shipping season in the melting Arctic, that the Coast Guard wouldn’t be able to respond to an environmental event on the order of the Cosco Busan oil spill this fall in San Francisco Bay, and that the Ocean Sentry was too expensive and the “Alternatives Analysis” hadn’t mentioned other possible aircraft to do its job. Cantwell’s home state of Washington includes many plants belonging to aerospace giant Boeing.

“All these assets are going to continue to get the attention of this committee. We are seeing … various questions raised. We can’t afford to make any more mistakes. All the assets deserve a complete scrubbing to make sure we are acquiring the right assets,” she said.

Notwithstanding Cantwell’s questioning, when Allen spoke with reporters during a break in the hearing, he said he thought Congress would fully fund his budget request

“I need every dollar,” he said.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th March 2008 at 17:15

IMO the NSC is a far better basis for a USN light surface combatant than the LCS.

Well, both have so many problems! The NSC seems more toward issues with the contractor and the LCS with Goverment interference……..pick your poison!:eek:

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By: Turbinia - 7th March 2008 at 15:37

IMO the NSC is a far better basis for a USN light surface combatant than the LCS.

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By: tiddles - 6th March 2008 at 03:44

Fewer Cutters for USCG?

Report: Coast Guard May Need Fewer Big Cutters

By philip ewing Defense News

Published: 5 Mar 17:38 EST (12:38 GMT)

An internal U.S. Coast Guard report has reaffirmed many of the lifesaving service’s choices about which vessels and aircraft it plans to buy, and what’s more, the report suggests that if officials buy an especially capable new variety of ship, they might not need to buy as many new national security cutters as they initially planned. But the report seemed to reinforce worries about the Coast Guard’s ability to manage the command and communications systems aboard its new assets.

Navy Times on March 5 obtained the executive summary of the Coast Guard’s Deepwater “Alternatives Analysis,” ordered last year by Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen in response to criticism of alleged mismanagement and waste in the Deepwater recapitalization portfolio.

The analysis reaffirms the Coast Guard’s commitment to its new, 418-foot Legend-class national security cutters, the first of which, the Bertholf, is scheduled to join the fleet later this year. But the report, dated Feb. 14, does not mention the Feb. 24 announcement by two Coast Guard officials that there were “issues” with the command and communication systems aboard the Bertholf, which involved “some risk” to its delivery schedule.

It does mention specifically the risk of “connectivity problems” among Coast Guard assets and between it and other agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security and the Defense Department, caused by the “multiple command and control systems” on Deepwater platforms.

The report does acknowledges other early “issues” for the Bertholf and the next ship in the class, the Waesche – including cost bumps and questions about hull strength – but concludes “no other candidate could meet the speed, sea-keeping and endurance” the Coast Guard needed.

Still, the analysis recommends that if the Coast Guard can incorporate the features it needs into its cheaper, not-yet-designed Offshore Patrol Cutters, it should build more of those and two fewer national security cutters, to save money.

The report also recommends that the Coast Guard adapt the Navy’s Fire Scout unmanned aerial vehicle as the UAV paired with its new top-tier cutters. Service officials canceled the Coast Guard’s own UAV, the vertical takeoff-and-landing Eagle Eye, last year.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 6th March 2008 at 00:30

The NSC looks really nice doesn’t it and the HC-130J looks great in those colours, what about the rest of the fleet? The UAV’s, the smaller vessels.

Here is a pic I have had for sometime on what was expected in the deepwater program.

I wonder if the USN and USCG couldn’t have combined the NSC and the LCS Programs??? :rolleyes:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 6th March 2008 at 00:00

A Hurricane couldn’t sink those boats!:diablo:

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By: Wanshan - 5th March 2008 at 20:22

November 20, 2007: LONG RANGE INTERCEPTOR COMPLETES SUCCESSFUL INTEROPERABILITY TEST WITH NATIONAL SECURITY CUTTER
http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/newsflash/details.php?id=56

http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/img/newsflash/LRI_in_Pascagoula.jpg

June 6, 2007: DEEPWATER LONG RANGE INTERCEPTOR BEGINS INITIAL TESTING
http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/newsflash/details.php?id=27

http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/img/newsflash/LRI_2.jpg

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By: Ja Worsley - 5th March 2008 at 10:53

The NSC looks really nice doesn’t it and the HC-130J looks great in those colours, what about the rest of the fleet? The UAV’s, the smaller vessels.

Here is a pic I have had for sometime on what was expected in the deepwater program.

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By: tiddles - 5th March 2008 at 08:33

There is a bit of info on this link via links to other blogs.
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http://warisboring.com/?p=921

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By: Arabella-Cox - 5th March 2008 at 04:22

I am hoping St. Peterburg, Florida gets the new C-130J soon? I often see the older models flying over the Gulf of Mexico. Not that I often look up when I am at the beach!;)

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By: Wanshan - 4th March 2008 at 20:08

http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/newsflash/

February 15, 2008 BERTHOLF COMPLETES LATEST MILESTONE, RETURNS FROM SUCCESSFUL BUILDERS TRIALS
http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/img/newsflash/NSC_Builders_Trials.jpg

February 1, 2008 FIRST MISSIONIZED HC-130J BEGINS FLIGHT TEST OPERATIONS
http://www.icgsdeepwater.com/img/newsflash/HC-130J_Pre-flight.jpg

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