In the latest issue it is mentioned that Delta Airlines is looking into the 717 and the A318 as possible replacements for its fleet of B737-200s. Does anyone have a possible explanation as to why the B737-600 isn’t being considered? From what I can tell, it more closely resembles the A318 in seating and range and also offers the added benefit of having commonality with Delta’s 737-800s. So why are they considering the 717? What am I missing here?
Cheers
Binx
By: Mark L - 9th September 2004 at 22:37
How unionised is Delta WD? Alitalia are having HUGE problems at the moment, as every restructuring plan they submit gets rejected by the workforce, who are being nothing short of unreasonable. Could this cause any big problems for DL?
By: Whiskey Delta - 9th September 2004 at 22:23
Do you have more details about their cut plans on hubs and fleet?
I haven’t had a chance to read much of the details but from what I’ve seen so far DFW will no longer be considered a hub as they go from 245 to 21 daily flights. As for fleet types the only note have seen regarding that is they’ll be eliminating 4 fleet types but no mention of what they will be. There will also be a shift of flying to their Song LCC operation.
Anyone care to guess what the 4 fleet types will be? For sure that will include the MD-11’s and 732’s.
By: danairboy - 9th September 2004 at 22:07
Very sad, I dont wantr to see Delta dissapear from our skies. Along with TWA they were my favourite US airlines!
By: Hand87_5 - 9th September 2004 at 21:10
Do you have more details about their cut plans on hubs and fleet?
By: bmi-star - 9th September 2004 at 21:08
Been with DL in 2001 when i did MAN-ATL-ORD-ATL-MCO-ATL-MAN. Got a 757 deck visit @ ORD, 2 weeks befroe 9/11, and i loved their 764’s on the MCO-ATL. I do respect them so its a pity to see um like this
By: Whiskey Delta - 9th September 2004 at 21:01
This is quite a move by them. USAirways and United have been in more trouble a lot longer and haven’t gone as far as fleet type eliminations (US even added one) or hub eliminations. Here comes Delta and is making some deep cuts. This could be what saves them while UAL and US suffer a greater failure for a lack of deep cuts earlier.
By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 9th September 2004 at 20:26
I knew delta were in abit of trouble but I didnt realise it was this bad! Its beginning to annoy me the way so many major airlines are losing money!!
By: Lawndart - 9th September 2004 at 18:40
Bad news 🙁
Delta’s my favourite carrier,been with them on their Manchester – Atlanta – Miami route many times on the way to my aunt’s in Florida,my earliest and best memories of flying are on their L1011’s,MD-11’s,757’s and 767’s between those destinations.
Let’s hope they survive though,and my sympathies to those who are going to find themselves out of a job,tragic 🙁
By: EGNM - 3rd January 2003 at 10:19
RE: Delta
with SAS especially in those ypes of operating areas (Scandinavia) that will be a huge problem corrosion, especially in winter on snowy on wet runways and areas, but i think many fields use a de-icing soloution now rather than the traditional salt which many have caused havoc with a/c – it’s bad enough with cars on the roads!
By: Saab 2000 - 3rd January 2003 at 09:50
RE: Delta
No the 717 can hardly be called a success,but without a doubt the 717 has the clear advantage. They’ve delivered 100 jets, and have shown reliability with the few airlines they fly with.
The problem with the SAS 736 was that it turns out to be a lot more expensive to operate than expected,with the fuel consumption. Also the combination of the wings (the span is longer than the length of the fuselage) and an inadequate yaw damper results in poor flight characteristics in cruise. Many passengers and even flight attendants have been sick.There are also great costs with maintenance of the whole 737 fleet in SAS, there is a problem of corrosion in the main gear wheel.
By: KabirT - 3rd January 2003 at 08:30
RE: Delta
Delta will be better off with the B717…its not a succes either, but will serve them well.
By: binx - 3rd January 2003 at 04:58
RE: Delta
What specific problems have the airlines been experiencing with the 737-600?? On paper (according to Boeing’s website at least) it appears to be much better than the 717 in range, payload, seating, fuel burn, etc… Thanks for replying to my initial question.
Cheers,
Binx
By: dan330 - 2nd January 2003 at 20:58
RE: Delta
“the A318 and the 736 are complete flops.”
You can hardly call the 717 a success but fair point.
Aren’t they also considering the new Embraer, 190 I think?
Delta do tend to like the MD series so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them order the 717, if the only challenge is an Airbus then I think its a one way contest with Delta!
By: EGNM - 2nd January 2003 at 13:00
RE: Delta
If the 717 programme does get this boost then the Long Beach workforce will be relieved as it will be a large order and keep the line running another few years!
By: Saab 2000 - 2nd January 2003 at 09:21
RE: Delta
The 737-600 is not being considered because of certain problems other airlines are having with the aircraft. Also the A318 and the 736 are complete flops.
It seems rational then that they order the 717. It fits in to their fleet rather well and are good replacements for the MD88/MD90 and also the 732.
By: Cleggy - 1st January 2003 at 21:39
RE: Delta
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