DH 82A Tiger Moth N6665 History

N6665 is listed in Stuart MacKay’s book on the Tiger Moth, as being Build No. 3969 – a surviving airframe of British production. That’s all – good luck with the search.

Not looking too hopeful on a Sunday morning, can only confirm the reference as ‘preserved’, no further details.:(

Air Britain N series gives with 6ERFTS/6 EFTS at Sywell. Struck off charge 25.5.50 probably with Rollasons at Croydon.

Air Britain N series gives with 6ERFTS/6 EFTS at Sywell. Struck off charge 25.5.50 probably with Rollasons at Croydon.

So probably sold for spares or possible rebuild which makes the description ‘preserved’ as suspicious, WHO decided it was preserved?:confused:

I would think the best place to ask would be the Moth club,if she survives – they will know…

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhmothclub.co.uk%2F&rct=j&q=the+moth+club&ei=G9xSS6GwFY6I0wSGpKGwCg&usg=AFQjCNFUEpgRP4ssvSvuO_2t4vLWjk5ioA

Planemike on here may have contacts

Putting on my spotting anaorak it is current as F-PYMI base as Romans ,although this aircraft is a composite that supposedly has the major components of N6665. But then again most flying Tigers are like this.

Not doubting your contribution Rob, but is it current as it does not appear on the French register?:confused:

And isn’t it a bit odd that F-PYMI is in the French “homebuilt” series (F-Pxxx)?
Suggests it is far from an original airframe.
I cannot find any recent references to it, but will keep looking.
I shall be near Romans in the next month so may call in!

Laurence

Hi the info comes from the aerodata database as I could find nothing on google, or strangly the French online register. There are also a couple of Austers in the F-P series I think it’s used for modified aircraft and those of unsure provenance.

F-PYMI

this registration was reserved -12-08 to Jean Michard, Romans.
Also on the French F-P register is another Tiger Moth F-PMDS

dh83

I assume that someone has taken a look at the DGAC website. I haven’t yet, but I’ll do so tomorrow unless someone else does so in the meantime!

Been there, done that!:)

Then one less job for me tomorrow!

Thank you

Many thanks to you all for your help on this. I wish I had paid more attention to my French teacher. Only another 160 aircraft to go!

David

French Register

I am not sure if I trust the French Register (via CAA) as:

Rechercher des aéronefs inscrits ou radiés au registre

for when I type in ‘Handley Page’ I get 6 Halifax registrations. Maybe I am missing something in the translation:D

David

Translation

What’s the problem David? Do you want some help? Give me the link and I can look at it.

If it is the DGAC site, I looked for F-PYMI inscrit or radié (current or deleted), and even searched for “de Havilland” at Romans, and each time came up with zero results. I shall have to go and look next month!

Sorry

Laurence

Without wishing to sound pompous, it’s necessary to know a little of how the French civil aircraft register works before the DGAC website will serve you as an effective research tool. Firstly, as Laurence says, you need to know whether you are looking just for aircraft currently on the register (inscrit) or those now deleted from it (radié). Secondly entering the aircraft manufacturer (constructeur) will not necessarily reveal all the aircraft produced by it which are or were on the register. Often the restorer of a restored aircraft will register himself as the constructor . Thus searching against the aircraft type (modèle de aéronef) produces a more reliable result. However you have to be very precise as to what you enter. For example if, as in this case, you enter D.H.82A or Tiger Moth, it will tell you that there are none presently or formerly on the register. You have to enter DH 82 A to get a positive result. Thirdly not always will the previous identity of the aircraft be recorded but frequently a previous military identity will appear as the construction number (Nº serié).

By entering DH 82 A against modèle de aéronef and ticking the inscrit box, five French registered Tiger Moths appear. These are

F-AZPP (RAF serial not recorded)
F-PMDS (RAF serial recorded as T7400)

Both of these aircraft are recorded as their restorers, rather than de Havilland, being the manufacturer

F-AZTM (RAF serial recorded as DF210)
F-AZEI (RAF serial recorded as T6553)
F-GTBO (construction number recorded as 3810, which may be the RAF serial number, less than prefix letter, or the true DH c/n)

These are recorded against de Havilland as the manufacturer.

Unless it is F-AZPP (try googling this registration to see if that reveals its RAF serial), none of these are the Tiger Moth for which you are searching, David. However that does not mean that N6665 is not lurking somewhere in France. However if it isn’t one of the five above and hasn’t been on the French register (which presumably are the other 155 through which you are going, David!), then you’ve got a difficult search on your hands and I suspect that the web won’t help you with it. Nonetheless, I wish you the best of luck!

p.s. it seems that F-AZPP is not the aircraft for which you are looking as the photos online show it carrying the RAF serial T8857

Pompous? – Not at all

Thank you Avion for your very helpful posting. Luckily I only have 10 Tiger Moths to trace. The other aircraft might possibly be easier, for a start most of them are bigger and I will be more experienced!

David

Thank you John. Constructor’s number 3810 was RAF N6473 (not “No 6473”), which became G-AOBO, interestingly registered to “JS and SV Shaw”! So that was the one that is now F-GTBO it seems. In fact there is rather a nice photo of it at Orbigny:
http://classiqueaeroservice.free.fr/galerie_de_photos___gallery___913.htm

Laurence

The No was a typo error and should have read N6473, I am one of the two registered owners and the one who spent 8 years rebuilding the aircraft from boxes of bits, as you say it is now in Orbigny France.
Also on the Classique Aero Service website you will see my latest project the Sopwith Camel being reconstructed from original Sopwith drawing.
John

Thank you John. Constructor’s number 3810 was RAF N6473 (not “No 6473”), which became G-AOBO, interestingly registered to “JS and SV Shaw”! So that was the one that is now F-GTBO it seems. In fact there is rather a nice photo of it at Orbigny:
http://classiqueaeroservice.free.fr/galerie_de_photos___gallery___913.htm

Laurence