December 7, 2004 at 12:59 pm
As everyone will know there is a project (or two) to create a replica HP42, and we all wish those undertaking such a task every success. Thing is I’ve always wondered why nobody thought of building a replica DH91 Albatross?
With its streamlined profile, it would be an ideal candidate to reproduce the airframe using composite materials, with modern engines (Vickers Vimy) and avionics. I know that there is a scaled P51 replica kit using the same materials and construction methods. Surely it is just a case of scaling up the process, though I doubt if there is an autoclave large enough for the job of building a complete wing of fuselage.
Just a thought!
By: Rob Mulder - 23rd November 2019 at 09:47
Hi,
I am writing a book about the D.H.91 Albatross. One of you mentioned that there were drawings of the aircraft. If so, do you know where? They were not at the BAeS Heritage Centre. We would need them to make the correct three-side drawings.
Cheers
Rob
By: jetman-2 - 12th December 2004 at 10:50
thanks a lot dcollins1
fantastic project
By: TempestV - 10th December 2004 at 08:25
building new mosquitos.
Jetman-2
look at this website:
specifically here:
By: JDK - 9th December 2004 at 11:43
No Paul, that was the Fairey airliner of 1939. Spookily similar.
By: paulmcmillan - 9th December 2004 at 11:34
Pic of the Albatross HERE
“When I grow up I want to be a Lockheed Constellation”
By: jetman-2 - 9th December 2004 at 11:29
Replica Mosquito???
[QUOTE=dcollins103]Phillip
Yes it is possible to re-make an Albatross, Glyn powell is using exactly the same process on his mosquito projects,
can you give some details? anything on the net about it?
By: Bruce - 9th December 2004 at 07:25
Philip,
So, why is noone building Mosquitoes then? Far more significant, far more interesting, and errm none flying….
Bruce
By: JDK - 8th December 2004 at 21:46
I fail to see where a stressed skin construction in ‘easier’ to build or rebuild than a fabric covered frame. There’s not a lot in it, once you discard the authentic construction, and merit to both systems.
Oooo. look at those spuds. 😉
By: David Burke - 8th December 2004 at 19:45
The Albatross whilst a lovely design doesn’t exactly figure high as a nostalgic
method of transportation. It was certainly futuristic but would it now score any more points sat on an apron than one of the multitude of turboprop airliners which inhabit our airways?
As for the Halifax – I don’t think being built of wood would have made any difference to the number surviving and indeed the possibility of seeing one in the sky. The main reason we don’t have one in the sky is that they were melted to make saucepans and bubble cars . A wooden Halifax would have been just as useful for converting into sheds and ash in the fireplace.
By: dhfan - 8th December 2004 at 19:34
The Albatross was beautiful, but it was a dead-end.
Having said that – Mosquito. Hmmmm.
Found a pic of the Gipsy Twelve/King in Bill Gunston’s Aero Engine Encyclopedia. It’s clearly geared and supercharged.
By: Phillip Rhodes - 8th December 2004 at 19:20
So a modern material, new-engined copy of a not very sucessful fundimentally flawed (but good looking) airliner that didn’t do much? Ooo. I’ll take two. :rolleyes:
OK, we can all do what we want, but the Albatross, while lovely, isn’t exactly top of the hit parade. Also, that type of approach to historic aviation isn’t puting authenticity high enough on the agenda for my liking.
The incredible HP42 project makes a lot more sense.
Cheers
The HP42 is a more complex airframe involving fabric covered metal wings. True the DH91 isn’t the top of most people’s hit parade, but it’s method of construction will always make this project more viable. If the aircraft was hammered out of aluminium, then it would be more of a dream. Likewise if the Halifax was originally build from wood, then I wouldn’t be surprised if there was at least one replica flying today.
Apart from the main stumbling block (MONEY), the main problem in building a replica DH91 is method of construction. I would choose composite materials because they easier to work with these days than trying to get it 100% accurate – cheaper too. I would probably guess that such a project would no doubt end up being built in the USA.
One can but dream (not forgetting off course to over cook the spuds).
By: JDK - 8th December 2004 at 16:40
So a modern material, new-engined copy of a not very sucessful fundimentally flawed (but good looking) airliner that didn’t do much? Ooo. I’ll take two. :rolleyes:
OK, we can all do what we want, but the Albatross, while lovely, isn’t exactly top of the hit parade. Also, that type of approach to historic aviation isn’t puting authenticity high enough on the agenda for my liking.
The incredible HP42 project makes a lot more sense.
Cheers
By: dhfan - 8th December 2004 at 16:03
Are supercharged and geared air-cooled inverted V12s that easy to get? 🙂
By: Phillip Rhodes - 8th December 2004 at 15:54
Silly buggers – NEW ENGINES – Just like the Replica Flying Vicker Vimy.
By: Bruce - 8th December 2004 at 07:41
I have just dug out the RRHT boks on Halford, and DH Engines. They both state 525 hp at 2600 rpm. Engine is geared and supercharged. It had an 18.4 litre capacity.
Bruce
By: dhfan - 7th December 2004 at 23:50
Just looked at DH Aircraft since 191?. Looking at the thrust line on the Don, it looks like it could be geared. Difficult to tell with the Albatross as the spinners are so large.
The website I referred to above stated the power of the Gipsy King as 420hp. That sounded reasonable for two Gipsy Six’s on a common crankcase, unsupercharged. However, the Putnam book says both the Gipsy Twelve and Gipsy King were 525hp which suggests they were exactly the same and supercharged.
By: Bruce - 7th December 2004 at 17:35
I know of three or four
One at Shuttleworth; One in Bristol, we have one in very poor condition, and I believe there is one with a private collector.
I think it was supercharged, but not geared. Ours is missing a lot of bits, including the entire back end!
Bruce
By: dhfan - 7th December 2004 at 17:15
Good point, Bruce. Are there any left?
Edit. Googling last night for the DH93 Don, I found several references to it.
One in particular said the Gipsy King was geared and supercharged. I didn’t think it had either, can anybody confirm?
By: Bruce - 7th December 2004 at 17:11
and getting hold of four Gypsy 12’s could be fun as well!
Bruce
By: danohagan - 7th December 2004 at 16:58
Pic of the Albatross HERE