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"Ding Dong The Dinosaur is Dead" ?

Odd how we had so much jubilation when Mrs Thatcher died, yet nobody seems to have a bad word to say about an old style union leader who worked only for the benefit of his members, often to the detriment of the poor people forced to use the services he took out on strike.

Admitted there is the added sadness of his relative youth.

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By: John Green - 27th March 2014 at 17:48

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You’re bound to write that because you are in opposition. Millions supported her because they voted her into power – lots of times.

I know it hurts and I could weep for you !

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By: trumper - 27th March 2014 at 17:30

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I would not ever expect you to agree with my opinion and those of millions of others of our late, much lamented leader, Lady T.

That may just be a little exaggeration – – millions i very much doubt it .

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By: John Green - 27th March 2014 at 14:15

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Can’t let you get away with that juvenile rant. You are so obviously on the opposite side of the political divide that I would not ever expect you to agree with my opinion and those of millions of others of our late, much lamented leader, Lady T.

One major aspect of her wonderful political legacy, which you, from an obvious socialist platform, would never agree, was her restoration of political and national confidence in Britain.

The Marxist/Socialists perennial intent, first upon the destruction and then the re-building of society in their political image and exemplified by the socialist provocateurs, Red Robbo, Arthur Scargill, Scanlon and plenty of others had at the behest of their political paymasters in Whitehall, conspired to destroy the image of Britain in the eyes of the world.

Britain had become a basket case. Marxist inspired revolution was in the air. Irrespective of elementary commercial considerations, steel and coal production was to continue unabated. It did not matter to the union bosses that we could import coal and steel for a fraction of the price we could produce it in Britain. Mrs. Thatcher, as she then was, had other ideas.

She began the process of restoring Britain’s name and reputation in the world, only for Tony Blair to come along. Yes, the socialists have much to answer for.

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By: charliehunt - 27th March 2014 at 09:35

No, that is your view of the reality of her legacy, but not the view of those who disagree. We can indeed move on by agreeing to disagree. Opinion is and will remain divided, as it is for every prime minister we have had!

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By: silver fox - 27th March 2014 at 09:12

Granted she was strong and purposeful, but I found her attitude and approach extremely arrogant and yes her opposition both outside and within her party was weak, the comment that some men took against her because she was a women missed the mark, I feel that many both men and women felt that a female PM would have better empathy and understanding with family and what affects families, sadly this was far from reality.

The reality is she can longer haunt, terrorise or otherwise damage anyone, we live even now with the splits and divisions she helped create, but let’s just leave it at that and hopefully move on, the old saying “no point crying over spilt milk” is appropriate I feel.

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By: charliehunt - 27th March 2014 at 05:54

Those men who enjoy the “bossy woman” probably liked her but in general the type of man you characterise in your last sentence might well have taken against her because of her sex.

I think she won for two main reasons – she was strong and purposeful but not arrogant and her opposition for much of the time was weak. And she eventually lost power because those strengths turned to hubris.

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By: Creaking Door - 26th March 2014 at 22:53

I always wonder how many voters didn’t like Margaret Thatcher because she was a woman…

…and by ‘voters’ I mean men here.

I’m sure there has to be something in that; how many (men) didn’t like a woman being in charge? What about northern men or ‘working-class’ men; would they be less likely to be happy with a woman Prime Minister?

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By: charliehunt - 26th March 2014 at 22:35

Touché!!;)

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By: trumper - 26th March 2014 at 22:11

Always be wary of the popularity seeking politician because you never know what they believe in whereas you always know what a conviction politician believes.

:highly_amused:I’ll edit what you really mean to say “Always be wary of the politician”

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By: charliehunt - 26th March 2014 at 22:02

Always be wary of the popularity seeking politician because you never know what they believe in whereas you always know what a conviction politician believes.

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By: trumper - 26th March 2014 at 21:37

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I can do better than that. Lady T made millions very happy even to the point of voting for her !

A alot of people also were very happy when she lost power ,including her own party, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher

“During her premiership Thatcher had the second-lowest average approval rating, at 40 percent, of any post-war Prime Minister. Polls consistently showed that she was less popular than her party.[186] A self-described conviction politician, Thatcher always insisted that she did not care about her poll ratings, pointing instead to her unbeaten election record.[187]

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By: silver fox - 26th March 2014 at 21:28

As they say “you can fool some of the people most of the time” etc, etc.

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By: charliehunt - 26th March 2014 at 21:10

But not Mr Fox…….

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By: John Green - 26th March 2014 at 21:01

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I can do better than that. Lady T made millions very happy even to the point of voting for her !

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By: silver fox - 26th March 2014 at 20:53

If I make just one person happy then I’m happy.

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By: charliehunt - 26th March 2014 at 20:49

Nice to read a post that brings a smile to my face in the evening!;)

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By: silver fox - 26th March 2014 at 20:45

The biggest con job ever perpetrated on the British public, yes she got away with it for too long, but notice the real North / South divide during her time, however to repeat can she and us be left in peace, so many Tories keep dragging her name into discussion, then get all indignant when she doesn’t receive the national adulation that they feel she deserves, she’s gone let’s leave it at that shall we.

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By: John Green - 26th March 2014 at 10:49

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….” even as a popular leader…”

Remind me. How many elections did she win? Apart from you and Snafu she surely had someone voting for her.

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By: silver fox - 25th March 2014 at 21:34

John
Don’t get over excited, I did not celebrate when she died, I have no desire to dance on her grave, but do not expect millions of people to have a real respect for her, I most certainly don’t and most definitely all these attempts to show that woman as some sort of saint, genius, or even as a popular leader will always go down like a brick budgie as far as I’m concerned.

Couldn’t stand the sight or sound of her when she was alive, I and many others would prefer that she and us can be left in peace now she’s gone, thank you.

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By: snafu - 25th March 2014 at 14:40

Oh, very closed. Especially if you don’t want to also focus on your own comments against those not following your political theories.

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