Do "Kiddies Toys" Count???????

Christmas is coming – right about now is usually when I start dropping hints! Like when I was seven or eight and I wanted a pet alligator…! :diablo:

😀 😀 😀 LMFAO 😀 Mark 😀 😀 😀 I’ll have to give that one a try 😀 😀 😀

Christmas is coming – right about now is usually when I start dropping hints! Like when I was seven or eight and I wanted a pet alligator…! :diablo:

Nice plane, Mike, but I’ll stick to my Spits, thanks! 😉

I wonder when they’ll bring out a Spit in the same format as the Mustang and FW190?? Surely it’s inevitable!!

With any luck 😀 😀 😀 Mark 😀 I might be able to afford it too if I save up for a few years 😀 😀 😀

Nice plane, Mike, but I’ll stick to my Spits, thanks! 😉

I wonder when they’ll bring out a Spit in the same format as the Mustang and FW190?? Surely it’s inevitable!!

Hi! new to this forum – first time post…

Interesting debate here!
I’m not sure if the Air Navigation Order or CAP 658 mention these type of models directly but the do get a mention in the BMFA handbook as ‘Parkflyer Models’.

http://www.bmfa.org/handbook/images/handbook2003.pdf

They certainly seem to class these models as ‘propper’ r/c aircraft as they fly and use r/c to control them on the same frequencies as much larger model aircraft.

I personally think they are propper r/c aircarft for the following reasons:

They are available to buy (argos, ebay etc…) unlike any other r/c aircraft. They are relatively safe to fly if certain rules are followed and will do little damage in a model/human collision. My main model is a Funtana S40 that would kill someone if it hit them and as such is only available through good model shops (I love it – see picture below! :diablo: )

For this reason these small electric models are able to reach a much wider audience than we ever could before through shows and displays. Theye are fun to fly but some people quickly want to know why they can’t hover their 2ch plane like a 3D aerobatic model or why it doesn’t sound like that warbird with the big 4-stroke up front – and this brings new life to the hobby!

Cheers
Mike

PS – Those little FW190’s are supposed to be cool fun!

In that case may I be one of the first (although I doubt that I am 😀 😀 :D) to welcome you to our little madhouse 😀 😀 😀 Mark 😀

I love the plane 😉 Bet she goes like a dream.

I repaired my superfortress………..and then put it into the ground again 😀 😀 😀 I found out the hard way that it was a lot more manoeuvrable than the rest 😀 😀 😀

Hi! new to this forum – first time post…

Interesting debate here!
I’m not sure if the Air Navigation Order or CAP 658 mention these type of models directly but the do get a mention in the BMFA handbook as ‘Parkflyer Models’.

http://www.bmfa.org/handbook/images/handbook2003.pdf

They certainly seem to class these models as ‘propper’ r/c aircraft as they fly and use r/c to control them on the same frequencies as much larger model aircraft.

I personally think they are propper r/c aircarft for the following reasons:

They are available to buy (argos, ebay etc…) unlike any other r/c aircraft. They are relatively safe to fly if certain rules are followed and will do little damage in a model/human collision. My main model is a Funtana S40 that would kill someone if it hit them and as such is only available through good model shops (I love it – see picture below! :diablo: )

For this reason these small electric models are able to reach a much wider audience than we ever could before through shows and displays. Theye are fun to fly but some people quickly want to know why they can’t hover their 2ch plane like a 3D aerobatic model or why it doesn’t sound like that warbird with the big 4-stroke up front – and this brings new life to the hobby!

Cheers
Mike

PS – Those little FW190’s are supposed to be cool fun!

Wooo, mama! 😀

R/C Focke-Wulf 190

Yes and yes!

One of our club members recently bought a roughly 1/72 scale R/C twin based on what looks like a Betty even though its described as a US Bomber!!

Flies entirely on engine thrust and seems to be the ideal thing for non flying days. Believe it was from Ripmax and cost £30 for the plane, charger and receiver.

Martin

That’s roughly what I paid for mine…………including my B-29 superfortress………….which I put into the ground last month 😮 😮 😮

Think I’ll have a go at repairing it later 😀 😀 😀 Mark 😀

One of our club members recently bought a roughly 1/72 scale R/C twin based on what looks like a Betty even though its described as a US Bomber!!

Flies entirely on engine thrust and seems to be the ideal thing for non flying days. Believe it was from Ripmax and cost £30 for the plane, charger and receiver.

Martin

It’s also for sale through I WANT ONE OF THOSE

This is the one I have:

http://www.gadgetsuk.com/image.php?productid=16677

There is also a “Mustang” – same body/wing, different paint.

I did, however, see a beautiful Mustang model in my local shop – electric RC, ARTF, in the markings of the OFMC example – only about £130!!!! 😮

If I had the money…. :rolleyes:

Apparently that £130 Mustang flies much better than it should do, the RC comics have raved about it

As well as flying 4 channel Radio Control, I do also like to fly what could be described as “Kiddies Toys” Two Channel Electric Aircraft that have no moveable flying surfaces but can have it’s yaw altered by varying the speeds of the two engines and can have it’s altitude altered by applying full power to both engines (you know the sort – the ones you pick up from a catalogue for £50).

I even saw some being advertised in an Aeromodeller Magazine (Don’t ask which one though, I have that many 😀 )

But do these actually count as “PROPER” Radio Controlled Aircraft????

What do you all think???????

Mark 🙂

as long you have fun with it, of course it counts:)

my very first model was two channel too, although rudder and elevator rather than motor power.

Yes the chances of doing someone an injury are low but there is a chance of it. I have no problem with them, i think they are great fun.

It’s like the time when my brother flew one of mine smack into me head – hurt a bit but no damage done (I was a wierdo before that 😀 😀 😀 ).

I guess they are useful for getting used to turning in the right direction (can get confusing if your aircraft is flying towards you – and if you do make a mistake it is a cheap one).

Also good for flying with primative flying controls (all mine only have 2 speed throttle control and only static flying surfaces).

Mark 😀

Yes the chances of doing someone an injury are low but there is a chance of it. I have no problem with them, i think they are great fun.

This is the one I have:

http://www.gadgetsuk.com/image.php?productid=16677

There is also a “Mustang” – same body/wing, different paint.

I did, however, see a beautiful Mustang model in my local shop – electric RC, ARTF, in the markings of the OFMC example – only about £130!!!! 😮

If I had the money…. :rolleyes:

I have one of those things… The day I bought it, i wasted 20$ of my vacation budget…

Cheap shot, Dave 😉

All R/C models are toys. It’s just some are for kids, and some are for big kids 🙂

If it’s controlled remotely by radio, it’s R/C, simple.

“Spitfire” (really a generic monoplane with an RAF paint scheme!)

Supermarine Mk26 then? 😀 😀

Thing is, these models are NOT the same as “proper” RC models – they’re not built the same, they don’t fly at the same speeds, hence are much less of a danger.

My “Spitfire”, for example – lightweight, polystyrene body, dunno how much it weighs, but it’s not a lot, and certainly couldn’t do any damage if it hit you.

Ollie, nobody said anything about learning to fly RC on them – but remember this, RC did NOT start out with fully proportional radio gear. When the greats were learning to fly RC, it was single or two-channel, at best!!

Besides, if you think these things can be dangerous, what about free-flight models with engines in them?!

:rolleyes:

Might as well give up now, Mark! :rolleyes:

I guess so………….oh well, back to the drawing board. Looks like I’m just a spitfire pilot after all (which suits me fine……………of course 😀 😀 😀 ) Mark 😀 😀 😀