Does Argentina have cruise missiles

believe it or not, a Chilean TV news channel interviewed various defense ‘specialists’ with a Google earth image with the ‘missile’. many of them pointed out the danger of these artifacts in the hands of our neighbours, but some two or three days later the same channel stated that the image was of a land based oil drill located on Argentinian Patagonia 😀 . Pathetic…

A very weird spin-off for this topic came into my atention last week.
Apparently some Chilean and Peruvian military enthusiasts forums (for those who don´t know, there is a real itch between those two countries) have been cranking up the paranoia syrene, pointing out that “Argentina has ballistic missiles pointed at Chile”…..LOL LOL LOL

The funny part to this story, is that (according to a “reputable non- accredited independant new agency“) argie Defense Ministress Ms. Nilda Garré was called over the “red phone” by her chilean pair and asked for a credible explanation for the alledged “missiles”. Ms. Garré, a former ´70´s left guerrilla leader, who has an axe to grind against everybody who wears a uniform, promptly put several army generlas and navy admirals under investigation for “unauthorized missile pointing” at a friendly country (apparently Ms. Garré doesn´t know that the country for which she IS THE DEFENSE MINISTRESS doens´t have any ballisitc missiles). Always according to this reputable non-accreditted source, the Ministress sent a dude down South with a GPS and a digital camera to make sure the evil right-wing generals were not trying to trick her into believing that there are only oil drilling cranes there.

Link in spanish here : http://www.totalnews.com.ar/detalle_noticia_arch.asp?cod_noticia=20310&fecha=20070621

21/06/2007 GARRE SOLO HACE INTELIGENCIA DE VIDEOGAMES

Nilda Garré recibió una comunicación por el “teléfono rojo”, el sistema que se activa para intercambiar datos sensibles entre ministerios, de su par trasandino José Goñi. Los chilenos creyeron ver el fantasma del Condor II, aquel vector estratégico desarrollado durante la gestión de Raúl Alfonsín,en suelo argentino, más precisamente a 50 kilómetros de Río Gallegos, la ciudadela del presidente Kirchner. Sucedió a principios de junio y se mantuvo en silencio por esas cuestiones de la disciplina del secreto que impone la actividad de inteligencia. Sin embargo el tema tratado fue -para calificarlo suavemente- un dislate de esos que pasan a la historia del anecdotario cómico del espionaje.

Funny indeed, or should I be wheeping…well, Ms. Garre said, when questioned about a strange FAL spares export to the US at ludricous prices that her ministry authorized, that she does not know “what a FAL is“.

King Jester

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Cessna172RG
sorry, but the information from Lockheed Martin indicated that the F-35 could be offered to Chile by 2011 to replace F-5E/Fs

Thanks Cessna172RG, I’ll look it up he never got back to me and I never saw on any of the military news sites I check daily. Learn something new every day.:cool:

Hi King Jester
Thanks for the help a guy I know from another forum asked for help. He told me once that Chile’s wants F-35s too but never back it up with a link.

sorry, but the information from Lockheed Martin indicated that the F-35 could be offeredto Chile by 2011 to replace F-5E/Fs. I don’t thinke there’s a necessity for such aircraft in this part of the world, but many people here -and on other LatAm countries- read another thing, and thought that our country was in eager to buy F-35…

Drilling equipment

Hi King Jester
Thanks for the help a guy I know from another forum asked for help. He told me once that Chile’s wants F-35s too but never back it up with a link. He mention that it’s 99.9 miles to Porvenir Chile….99,9 miles to Chabunco AFB, too.
He’s from Chile so I guess he watching Argentina I didn’t mean to put anybody on a witch hunt. Thanks for helping and finding the correct answer.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2301/misilporvenirangapuntanto9.jpg

You’ll find it here. Looks like a large target drone on launcher.

51°58’03.41″S 69°11’57.61″W

Well, sorry to disapoint you all guys, no secret “Scud-x” launcher here. Its oil drilling equippment, the whole area is a huge oil field, clustered with towers, pumps, cranes, worker camps and colector pipes. Just look at the size of the “object”, its 15 to 20 meters long (you can compare the size to a standart shipping container, there are several on nearby camps).

I agree it can certainly fool anybody (including me) by the odd shape, winged-like appearence, but no, just drilling equippment.

King Jester

PS: Wasn´t it Saddam who secretly tried to centrifuge uranium with oil drilling pipes? I´m pretty sure Colin Powel showed pictures just like this one on the UN assembly couple of years ago… :rolleyes:

You’ll find it here. Looks like a large target drone on launcher.

51°58’03.41″S 69°11’57.61″W

Have no Google Earth on my home computer, so I will have to check tomorrow at work, but those coord’s place it somewhere in the middle of Santa Cruz, Patagonia.
My bet is some odd oil drilling equippment, a crane, or the like.

Cheers,

King Jester

PS: It could be an airport escalator, thought 😀

Hi Nonpilot, it would help if you give us the exact coordinates to the picture, and the height at which you got the screenshot. I´m no Google Earth expert, but that thing must be darn big to show that much detail on Google Earth (i.e., an Exocet or Harpoon would be hardly recognizable given the resolution of image Google has).

So, where exactly is that thing? :confused:

King Jester

You’ll find it here. Looks like a large target drone on launcher.

51°58’03.41″S 69°11’57.61″W

Have they something named “Martin Pescador”? This is something like an AS IR-guided rocket.

Sorry for the basic question but can somebody tell me want type of missiles this is? Thanks

Hi Nonpilot, it would help if you give us the exact coordinates to the picture, and the height at which you got the screenshot. I´m no Google Earth expert, but that thing must be darn big to show that much detail on Google Earth (i.e., an Exocet or Harpoon would be hardly recognizable given the resolution of image Google has).

So, where exactly is that thing? :confused:

King Jester

Good range

Delilah-1 has grown into Delilah-2 I see from the attached link below, thanks for the info.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/air_missiles/delilah/Delilah.html

It looks like a target drone – but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a missile though, look at the Israeli Delilah, which is derived from the Chukar target drone.

Missile

Thanks for the help I searched around but didn’t find anything. I thought years back that there was an old program the ended because of a lack of funding.

Unless they are developing a top secret project, they don’t. It may be an Exocet missile (which they do have) or possibly a drone/UAV of some kind (which they also have and are developing).

—–JT—–