Does it really matter ?

…that there molehill’s definitely grown since last night… :rolleyes:

Well, firstly, he has clearly stated he is not reluctant and secondly, although you may not like it, the Queen is the Queen of the United Kingdom. Sorry old fruit, but that’s the way it is.;)

:confused: So far as I am aware the Queen is Andy Murray’s Head of State – or do you know something about him, that I don’t….?

As a fellow Scot, I can fully sympathise with Murray’s reluctance. To me the queen has as much to do with Scotland as spaghetti bolognese, and I can’t quite understand all the subservient cap-doffing given to Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, Prince Philippos Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg of Greece and Denmark, and the rest of their family…

Only the Dalai Lama would get my respect from the above mentioned persons.

To the others I would just say ” thats some nice get up your wearing there, how about selling it and feeding some starving people or getting someone off the street. Oh yeah sorry thats just what you tell us to do while you live in luxury. Your so called Christ never lived like you do, he never needed some monstrosity of a cathedral, and I dont think he was that keen on child molestration !”

Back on topic – It does not matter how much the royal family give in tax, they should be taxed they are just people living their lives like the rest of us. You say they cost us 13 pence each, I dont want to give them 13 pence. Why dont I have a choice ?

Next time you see some pics of the royal flight on here all I ask is you take a moment to think those RAF resources could be used to provide more helicopters to our troops in Afghanistan, those troops outside the palace could be rotated (more often) with active service personnel, that palace could be a hospital, goverment building ect.

..and if you are not convinced take a moment to think to your self `why do I allow myself to think these people are better than me just because they say they are`.

Why the Dalai Lama?:confused: Presumably you are happier shelling out a great deal more than 13p on useless, wasteful, pointless, hair-brained government expenditure.

Kev, are you against all royal family, or just ours? Cause I’m guessing that it’s the same situation in other royal states. They may even take more from the state – look at the Arab royalty for example!

Also, are our armed forces not ‘His/Her Majesty’s Armed Forces’ to which they fight for ‘King and Country’ or something like that. Granted, they would still do the same duty if we weren’t a royal state, but I’m thinking they have some sense of national pride fighting on behalf of the head of state.

Only the Dalai Lama would get my respect from the above mentioned persons.

To the others I would just say ” thats some nice get up your wearing there, how about selling it and feeding some starving people or getting someone off the street. Oh yeah sorry thats just what you tell us to do while you live in luxury. Your so called Christ never lived like you do, he never needed some monstrosity of a cathedral, and I dont think he was that keen on child molestration !”

Back on topic – It does not matter how much the royal family give in tax, they should be taxed they are just people living their lives like the rest of us. You say they cost us 13 pence each, I dont want to give them 13 pence. Why dont I have a choice ?

Next time you see some pics of the royal flight on here all I ask is you take a moment to think those RAF resources could be used to provide more helicopters to our troops in Afghanistan, those troops outside the palace could be rotated (more often) with active service personnel, that palace could be a hospital, goverment building ect.

..and if you are not convinced take a moment to think to your self `why do I allow myself to think these people are better than me just because they say they are`.

I saw these responses coming from a mile (1.61 km) away.

Let’s cause real trouble and ask what would you do if you were introduced to the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Dalai Lama?
Would you do the expected courtesies? 😀

Or if you were in another country, would you stand for the flag, observe local customs, traditions?
Or would your attitude be “It’s not my belief, so stuff it.”?

At the end of the day, there is still something about being polite even if you’re a republican, athiest, or from another country.

Or has all civility gone out the window in the name of personal expression?

I dispise all religion, but yes if I ever met those people I would give them the
respect anybody in high office deserve.

I saw these responses coming from a mile (1.61 km) away.

Let’s cause real trouble and ask what would you do if you were introduced to the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Dalai Lama?
Would you do the expected courtesies? 😀

Or if you were in another country, would you stand for the flag, observe local customs, traditions?
Or would your attitude be “It’s not my belief, so stuff it.”?

At the end of the day, there is still something about being polite even if you’re a republican, athiest, or from another country.

Or has all civility gone out the window in the name of personal expression?

Exactly – you can find the figures easily enough – not just in the Mail. It is also worth pointin ig out that the 7.9 million has remain unchanged for 20 years. Name me any other State organisation which has had its funding frozen for 20 years?

We pay very little indeed for our Head of State and because of the Civil List settlement the crown Estates contribute more than 200 million to the Treasury coffers.

Actually, just found this as well:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1288503/BUDGET-2010-Queen-hit-Osborne-plans-review-Civil-List-funding.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Yes, I know, it’s the daily mail, but bear with me…

apparently although the Queen receives £7.9 million a year, this is counterbalanced by the £226 million received by the treasury from the Crown Estates, the Queen’s private property.

According to the 2010/11 budget announced today, the civil list payments will be frozen at £7.9 million.

I make that £0.13 per person in the UK.

Isn’t that a reasonable sum for maintaining a head of state?

As a Scotsman and as a ‘non-royalist’ (I don’t dislike them, but don’t campaign for them), I would bow in that situation. The same as I would bow to most other members of royal families from other countries – as a matter of respect.

Actually, maybe not respect. Why, through being born into a ‘royal blood line’ do you automatically deserve respect? Maybe I would bow as a matter of ‘common practice’ then.

No one can say that the royals don’t do anything and that none of them don’t deserve any money. The majority of the male, British royal family have served, or are serving in the armed forces. Sacrificing their lives for their country. They deserve as much respect as anyone else in that position or even, perhaps, slightly more seeing as due to the fact that they haven’t done it/they’re not doing it for the money, they did it/they are doing it to serve their country.

In his defence we should point out that, as reported earlier, he has “twittered” that he has no intention of not bowing should he meet Her Maj on Thursday. As Blue says – mountains out of molehills, perhaps…………:)

Everyone should bow or curtsy to the queen. 🙂 If Andy does not then he is either ignorant or arrogant, or both.

:confused: So far as I am aware the Queen is Andy Murray’s Head of State – or do you know something about him, that I don’t….?

He’s a jock so he’s a foreigner as far as i’m concerned and the last time I looked Wimbledons still in England, I know shes his head of state but when
he’s in England he’s still a Foreigner in my country:D:D:D:D
btw before every body goes of on one please count the smilies

It’s a matter of respect, so he should. Seeemples.

I’m seeing a mountain being lovingly hand crafted from a molehill over this though… :rolleyes:

:confused: So far as I am aware the Queen is Andy Murray’s Head of State – or do you know something about him, that I don’t….?

It’s only right that you should bow to a head of state when your in a foreign
country:D

If she speaks to him he will bow. He will not be able to help himself, she is tiny!
He will automatically drop his head and it will look like a bow. (you watch:D)

Obviously, the Queen, who has shown more statesmanship and dignity in her long tenure than most of our elected representatives in a fraction of the time.

Much rather have the Queen as head of state rather than President Blair or President Brown. Imagine Cherie Blair as First Lady? Yuck!