Rather than resurrecting an old thread, thought I’d start a new one on the Dominie.
Researching the Dominie I find that the nose section of the T.1/2 has been modified at some time, possibly after the upgrade of the eight T.1s to T.2 standard. Does anyone know when this was done and what was the scope of this modification? The collage below from pics found on the net shows the difference quite clearly.
Details of the badge on XS714/P would also be highly appreciated. Definitely not 55 Squadron, 3FTS, or Northolt’s, in my opinion.
Any help would be highly appreciated
Airart
(Richard J. Caruana)
By: airart - 10th February 2006 at 12:41
Once again, thanks for all posters. Managed to do both versions, seen here.
Pity the Dominie is so badly documented.
RJC
By: bloodnok - 9th February 2006 at 18:28
the new nose skins and structure were done at marshalls in cambridge between 1995-1998.
By: DaveF68 - 9th February 2006 at 16:43
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I was going to PM you to ask if I could share them with Richard! I have similar angles on a black one!
By: merlin101 - 9th February 2006 at 16:39
these any use? I took them at Cosford couple weeks ago.
By: airart - 9th February 2006 at 16:07
Many thanks, will contact you for more details tomorrow morning.
Meanwhile, a rouch scan of Finningley’s badge would be a great help. I’m doing a colour profile of XS727, if I can find enough details.
rjc
By: Toddington Ted - 9th February 2006 at 14:03
Dominie Badge
Airart, Yes the badge on the fuselage side of the Dominie is that of RAF Finningley itself, my first RAF posting in fact! The aircraft belonged to 6 FTS but carried the RAF Finningley badge at that time. The badge, as you say, carries the white rose of Yorkshire surrounded by an oak leaf cluster to signify Nottinghamshire (the airfield borders both South Yorks and North Notts). The Stn motto is Usque Ad Coelem Fines which I think translates as To the furthest reaches of the skies. I only know this as the plaque is on the wall of my office here and the dominies are flogging round the circuit as I type, so you know where I am now! 🙂
By: DaveF68 - 9th February 2006 at 12:49
By co-incidence I have been researching this myself recently. First off, there is NO Dominie T2 – the designation was proposed but not taken up (when all were converted, there was no need for a new designation).
The nose was extended by 12 inches, which is clear from most photos, but it also appears to have been widened to accomodate the new radar (derived from the Lynx Seaspray IIRC) – the increased width appears to start from a point just forward of the windscreen. The radome has a much rounder plan profile.
Your first photo was intruiging as it appeared to show the extended nose, but the original radome, and I thought all the updated aircraft had the black scheme – but a search finds XS727 in 2004 in original scheme but modified nose (radome is slightly different)- you can see the repainted grey on the nose:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0567357/L/
and this angle shows the shape of the junction between the extended nose and the fuselage – note how it tucks in around the undercarraige
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0425345/L/
perhaps shown even better in the full version of your original picture
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0455142/L/
if you PM me I can share more of my findings.
I think the badge is the 6 FTS one from when they were based at Finninley, showing the white rose of Yorkshire
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February 9, 2006 at 6:52 am