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Dornier 17-Z nose glazings….

Can anyone think of a museum that might be interested in these…next year perhaps?? 😉

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By: Flying_Pencil - 30th November 2010 at 21:35

Where can one find such leftover items for sale?

I see some on eBay every once in while, but not the items I am truly looking for.

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By: Wondy - 29th October 2010 at 12:41

Im so excited about the recovery of the Dornier 17 by the RAF museum, it really is an amazing find, i couldnt believe the tyres are still intact! I hope it all goes well and cannot wait to follow the exciting progress on the forum. It certainly is a significant void filled in aviation history and couldnt think of a better place then Hendon along with the other world class exhibits.

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By: paulmcmillan - 28th October 2010 at 15:20

This post has understandably created considerable interest amongst various groups and museums who are all expressing a keen interest – naturally! .

Can I please have one to cover some plants in my garden?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 28th October 2010 at 15:10

I am not sure that “restore” is the term RAFM would use in the context of the Do17.

Cannot think what other “well known subject” you might be referring to, Cees!

Anyway…just off to raid my Halifax 😀 Building Society account for some pennies to buy Dornier nose glazings with. Maybe.

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By: CeBro - 28th October 2010 at 14:31

If RAFM is going to “restore “the Do17 then I feel a future heavy debate coming up regarding a well known subject:rolleyes:

Cees..

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By: philip turland - 28th October 2010 at 10:12

appreciate the feedback

thank you

We would not be in a position to purchase – maybe i misunderstood.

with the possible recovery of the well documented example of the type i fully understand the desire for the parts to go to RAFM.

we have some big chunks of dornier for display – it is from this aircraft http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/luft1942/Beyerer.html

i know it is a different type.

anyway if you could keep us posted please

regards

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By: Arabella-Cox - 28th October 2010 at 09:49

Philip

As far as I know (but I could be wrong!) the pile of nose glazings are still extant. I am currently doing what I can to see what can be done, but would add that I would like to see first refusal going to the RAFM. This post has understandably created considerable interest amongst various groups and museums who are all expressing a keen interest – naturally! However, I am on the case and trying to secure them if any are available. And they may not be!

All I can say is watch this space. I am aware of the various expressions of interest and will contact these people/organisations if things move forward. However, this will ultimately be a commercial undertaking and obviously here is not an appropriate place to deal with what might ultimately be the owner offering them for sale.

As I say, if one (or any) can be secured I would like the RAFM Hendon to be first in line in the event that it could supplement the possible recovery/display of the Goodwin Sands Do17. Almost certainly there will be no nose glazing and it may well be that Hendon would wish to display an example alongside even if the airframe is not to be “restored”.

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By: philip turland - 28th October 2010 at 09:22

Any Chance?

would dearly love these for our museum please

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By: Fouga23 - 26th October 2010 at 16:59

Good grief! Did you warn Poland?

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By: philip turland - 26th October 2010 at 16:05

Sywell Aviation Museum would love them

we are planning a dornier display for next year

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By: Moggy C - 26th October 2010 at 14:34

.. all the ‘moulds/dies’ to make BF-110 wings, the factory owner didn’t throw them out just stored them, ‘as they may be useful in the future’.

Good grief! Did you warn Poland?

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By: Sealand Tower - 26th October 2010 at 13:47

Gentlemen, thankyou all for informing us of what survives out there. Most of us rely on sites such as Preserved Axis Aircraft to find out what still exists.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 26th October 2010 at 09:19

I forgot to mention the lake recovered FW190 canopies – two on sale at 700 Euros each.

He 111 spine section section ca. 2 m long still with original paint

FW190 Belly ban

Ju 88 G6 cowling – which I acquired.

Ju88 canopy metalwork

The bf 110 wing section I acquired was brought from Czech Republic.

The 109 G and the FW190 landing flap were from France.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 26th October 2010 at 09:01

Indeed, Bruce.

With the Do17 glazings were a huge pile of what we were told were 109 (G??) leading edge slats. Certainly looked something of that order – or, at least, parts thereof. There must have been dozens of them stacked floor to roof. We couldn’t get close because they were stacked behind lots of other stuff and out of reach. However, they looked to have been made from some sort of composite material like paxolin….or even from wood. Does that make sense?

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By: Bruce - 26th October 2010 at 08:41

That 109G project has been around for some time.

There is a LOT of stuff still in Germany, much of it waiting for the right project. Original JU88 Canopy glazings, cowlings and a whole lot more – as Andy has found, lots of Do17 stuff – FW190 and Me109 are starting to dry up, but for aircraft that there is no easy project, there is a lot of stuff still there.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 26th October 2010 at 08:31

About parts still in Germany – At Speyer the other weekend there were enough parts to make a good start on a 109.

The forward port fuselage of a 109 G (from nose to blower inlet ca. 2.5m long) and a complete original upper wing centre section still marked with the original manufacturers ink.

And a 109 data plate to name it after.

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By: brewerjerry - 26th October 2010 at 03:07

Hi
Personally I think there is a lot left to be found in germany.

In 1999, a factory I did a generator service at, still had all the ‘moulds/dies’ to make BF-110 wings, the factory owner didn’t throw them out just stored them, ‘as they may be useful in the future’.

Saying that there is still plenty of stuff over this side of the pond.
Two years ago I did a beakdown call on two gen sets, the prime power diesel engines were ex 1940’s U boat.. they were still great & sounded great.
It was the 60’s build UK generators that had failed electrically.

And about a year ago there was a scrapyard, (about 1 hour from me), literally full of big a/c parts…. still trying to find out where it moved to …..
cheers
Jerry

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By: Flying_Pencil - 26th October 2010 at 00:39

Can anyone think of a museum that might be interested in these…next year perhaps?? 😉

Ahh…

ME?

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By: Jasonp51d - 25th October 2010 at 22:32

Andy,

Looking forward to meeting you.

Shame you didn’t make the opening – 150+people, 17 MV’s, 2 full-size A/C and a P-51 cockpit.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs463.ash2/73607_466995699896_623254896_5182439_2336297_n.jpg

Had never heard that although I know some living quarters were in S-B, will make some enquiries.

We are aleady on the case of the murals and have secured the flying tractor but are still busy tracing some of the others.

Cheers

Jason

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By: Arabella-Cox - 25th October 2010 at 20:19

Jason

I had thought of coming up for your open weekend, but family issues caused my plans to be changed.

Funnily enough, I was with Howard at RAF Northolt for a meeting only last week. We compared diaries and I will be up this side of Christmas.

For a while I lived down the road at Swaffham Bulbeck and have not been back for many a year. Spent many happy times at a house called Mitchell Hall (no R.J. connection!!) in S-B which, I believe, may have been living quarters for Bottisham officers. Have you ever heard that?

And whatever happened to that wall art? I photographed it in-situ but it was (I think?) due to be removed and shipped to the States but that must have been over 20 years ago.

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