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Dornier 17Z crew positions

Can anyone confirm for me if the Dornier 17Z (Battle of Britain period) pilot and Observer sat side by side? I’ve seen a photo of a Dornier 17 where they are, and one where there is no seat next to the pilot. Did the observer have a collapsable seat, or is the side by side seating from a later variant of the Do17Z

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By: von Perthes - 7th December 2003 at 12:22

Thanks for the info Distiller. To me the top picture looks to be of a ‘glass nosed’ Do17, but with a collapsable seat set up for the observer. Are you saying that in the Do17z, the observer was only able to lie down, and had no seat? If the top picture showed a solid nosed Do17 I would have though the right-hand seat would have been a bit more ‘permanent’, like the pilot’s.

Does anyone else have any ideas on this?

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By: Distiller - 6th December 2003 at 12:29

Your first photo is not a “Z”.

The Do17Z, S and U series had a redesigned fuselage. Four people sat in the nose, only the “Do17Z-7 Kauz I” seated two, the “Do17Z-10 Kauz II” seated three.

front left – the pilot
laying below and asides the pilot – bombadeer/gunner for the frontal sector
behind the pilot, facing backwards – gunner for high abaft sector and high left/right
low abaft – gunner for low abaft sector/engineer

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By: von Perthes - 6th December 2003 at 08:25

also said to be Do17Z

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