Doug Arnold F4U-5N Corsair Question (c1988-1998)

T J, when did David Arnold dispose of it? Presumably it was some time after “Shangri-La” went to Mexico, so was it around the time that “Petie 2nd” was up for grabs with Courtesy? I wasn’t aware it had even re-surfaced out of its container yet alone managed to log so many hours in the air. He really can’t have much left from the old days now. Wonder what’s next up for grabs, P40N maybe? Better fix those dents in the wing first;)

As I remember it the TF went back to the US in 1996. The a/c was certified by the FAA in 09-96 to its new owner. “Shangri La” probarbly went stateside around the same time. I’m not sure what David Arnold has got anymore. Haven’t heard anything about the P-40N being sold, nor have I heard that MK. IX NH238 has left.

T J

David Arnold sold this a/c many years ago, and it ended up in Florida. It has also been listed for sale through Sherman for some time. T J

T J, when did David Arnold dispose of it? Presumably it was some time after “Shangri-La” went to Mexico, so was it around the time that “Petie 2nd” was up for grabs with Courtesy? I wasn’t aware it had even re-surfaced out of its container yet alone managed to log so many hours in the air. He really can’t have much left from the old days now. Wonder what’s next up for grabs, P40N maybe? Better fix those dents in the wing first;)

Where do you see that it has returned to Europe, and when?

Its in Aeroplane Monthly (and in the news section on their site)

Where do you see that it has returned to Europe, and when?

I can confirm it has arrived in Germany in the last few weeks (I have dealings with the operating company).

I’m sure Mark12 could tell you all you need to know about him! 😉

Cheers

Paul

No relation. 🙂

Mark

I see the TF51 N7098V has turned up in Germany from Virginia. How long has this been in the US and who were the owners? I was under the impression it was still “missing, presumed to be at Greenham” with the P40, Spit IX and
Se5e?

Where do you see that it has returned to Europe, and when? David Arnold sold this a/c many years ago, and it ended up in Florida. It has also been listed for sale through Sherman for some time. One guy named as owner is a Giorgio Perfetti of Switzerland who apparently has a huge collection of Ferraris. The a/c was rumoured to have been sold just before GML last year, but it was later said that the deal fell through. One source told me that “whenever anyone made an offer, the price automatically went up”. True or not, the a/c has gone from $1.795.000 to $2.400.000 over the last 3-4 years.

T J

That’s the one!

Wildcat was N909WJ

The Corsair flew from Earls Colne to Bournemouth on 2 April 1997, and from Bournemouth to North Weald on 10 September 1997, together with a Wildcat (Can’t remember the registration)….

http://www.shermanaircraft.com/showspecs.php?ad=4

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/pages/picpages/44-73871/44-73871-ph.html

Sherman Aircraft have had it for sale for a few years, assembled and based in the States, it also turned up at Kermit Weeks place briefly a couple of years ago.
Dont think it ever came back to the UK.

Doug was there supervising the carpenters from his deck chair, and a friend and I were busy looking at the 51s. Only time I’ve seen the three together.

T J

I see the TF51 N7098V has turned up in Germany from Virginia. How long has this been in the US and who were the owners? I was under the impression it was still “missing, presumed to be at Greenham” with the P40, Spit IX and
Se5e?

Apologies for my ignorance and the slight thread creep, but who was Doug Arnold?

I know he seems to have been a collector of old aircraft, but did he trade as well, did he fly ones that ook his fancy and sold them off when he got bored or did he just collect rarer types – was he even picky at all? Was buying aeroplanes all he did or was he a city businessman – he must have got his money from somewhere.

I keep reading his name in many publications, he evidently did a lot for the preservation of aircraft, and seemingly didn’t die that long ago (early 90’s?), but I can find so little information on him….. anybody?

CJ

I’m sure Mark12 could tell you all you need to know about him! 😉

Cheers

Paul

Apologies for my ignorance and the slight thread creep, but who was Doug Arnold?

I know he seems to have been a collector of old aircraft, but did he trade as well, did he fly ones that ook his fancy and sold them off when he got bored or did he just collect rarer types – was he even picky at all? Was buying aeroplanes all he did or was he a city businessman – he must have got his money from somewhere.

I keep reading his name in many publications, he evidently did a lot for the preservation of aircraft, and seemingly didn’t die that long ago (early 90’s?), but I can find so little information on him….. anybody?

CJ

I’m trying to track the movement of F4U-5N BuNo.123168 (a.k.a. “122179”) during it’s time with the Doug Arnold/Warbirds of Great Britain, and Flying A Services collections (circa 1988-1998).

Despite the fact that most people say the plane never flew, I have photos of the plane present at Biggin Hill, North Weald, and at Bournemouth. Is there anyone that was close to the action there that can tell me when the plane might have been stored at these various locations? Any information is welcomed.

I’m not sure about the relationship between Biggin Hill and North Weald, or how Doug Arnold might have managed his aircraft between these two aerodromes, but I do believe Bournemouth might have come into play as part of ‘Flying A Services’ management only after Mr. Arnold’s death.

Any insight into the Corsairs whereabouts during that time, or about these locations in general would be of tremendous help! Thanks 😎

I went to Doug Arnold’s hangar at both Biggin Hill and Bournemouth in July 92, and I’m fairly certain the -5 was at Bournemouth at the time. When I was at Bournemouth Doug was there supervising the carpenters from his deck chair, and a friend and I were busy looking at the 51s. Only time I’ve seen the three together. If memory serves me right, the only things at Biggin was the PBY, FW-190, T-34, Lancaster, and Spit IX and XI. Although David Arnold was to fly the XI down within a couple of days. When I made it down south a few days later the Spit was there.

T J

And take photos as well I remember, although not of him in his deckchair in the middle of said hangar… 😉

Definately saw it display at Biggin in 89 together with Doug Arnolds P38 You could pay a pound and look around the Warbirds of Great Britain hangar as well

i think this corsair displayed at biggin hill in 1989,i believe the pilot was dave southwood.

Sounds like it was Mk.XVI SL721…

Nothing to do with the Corsair

I know this is off the subject but it reminded me of the time I was an Allison 250 rep and a work mate and myself visited Doug Arnold, who was operating a Jet Ranger from Blackbush. He got bored of our ‘support’ and invited us to have a look at the Spitfire that he had just imported from the USA. This was mid 70’s and I can’t remember the Mk but he drove us around the peri track, in his Rolls, to a blister hanger (overtaking a taxiing A/C on the way!). He unlocked and rolled back the doors and took great pleasure in showing us around the immaculate Spit. A great gesture from one of the last true ‘wheeler and dealers’.
Cheers
Graham