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Drunk passengers dumped in Venice.

A flight originating in Ireland en route to Heraklion by Futura Gael had to divert to Venice to disembark five drunk passengers recently. This seems to be an increasing annoying problem. More examples are given in the link.

http://www.gadling.com/2008/08/19/drunk-irish-passengers-start-brawl-on-flight-bound-for-greece-p/?icid=200100397x1207788966x1200430838

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By: Mondariz - 21st August 2008 at 09:48

Its nice to be able to have a drink while in the air but the events in Madrid yesterday show the importance of sobriety whilst flying as a passenger. How the hell can you get out of an aircraft in an emergency if your drunk. Not ony are you puting yourself at risk but those around you in the event of an emergency.

I hope that more airlines start to manage the amount of alcohol thats drunk onboardsimilarly the airports should inform the airlines in they see someone knocking them back before flight.

I also hope that more airlines take civil action against those who force a diversion for being drunk and recover the extra fuel costs, airframe hours, staff wages etc of a diversion.

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Airtravel is pretty safe, so focusing 100% on excape possibilities while flying, seems slightly over the top. I always enjoy a beer or two when flying (no im not a pilot :D).

Naturally you can’t have drunk passagers, but removing alcohol on the grounds of safety would be misusing (and thus undermining) the idea of aircraft safety.

There are people who “need” a few drinks to relax while flying. So instead of the occasional tipsy PAX, you might have a panic-stricken passanger (heartattack symptoms and perhaps another unscheduled landing – Oh, it has happened).

Airlines need to manage the alcohol consumption (as they legally have to, when serving alcohol) of their passangers. The Irish lads on the flight above, would either have been too drunk to enter the plane in Ireland, or they had been served on the plane (or been drinking their own booze). Either way, the airline staff could have prevented the events (Im not actually blaming them, just saying they could have managed the consumption).

I have yet to hear about an accident caused by a drunken passenger, or a drunken passenger causing further damage/death during an accident. Once they can prove drinking on aircraft is directly dangerous, then they can ban it on safety reasons – not before it can be proven, on the grounds of assumptions and heresay.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st August 2008 at 08:46

An interesting idea proposed by Steve Wilson but ones suspects that those who cause this sort of mayhem do not have any assets that could be ceased if they failed to pay. Sounds like yet another opportunity for lawyers to make money.

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By: T-21 - 21st August 2008 at 07:13

The Air Navigation Order say’s it is illegal to be drunk on an aircraft. Print this in big letters in the holiday brochures and huge billboards in the terminals. Stop people tanking up before boarding in the terminals. They are putting other peoples lives at risk in an emergency. Time to get tough,common sense before commercial gain.The Spanair disaster woke everyone up to what can go wrong so quickly.

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By: steve wilson - 21st August 2008 at 06:58

Its nice to be able to have a drink while in the air but the events in Madrid yesterday show the importance of sobriety whilst flying as a passenger. How the hell can you get out of an aircraft in an emergency if your drunk. Not ony are you puting yourself at risk but those around you in the event of an emergency.

I hope that more airlines start to manage the amount of alcohol thats drunk onboardsimilarly the airports should inform the airlines in they see someone knocking them back before flight.

I also hope that more airlines take civil action against those who force a diversion for being drunk and recover the extra fuel costs, airframe hours, staff wages etc of a diversion.

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By: swerve - 20th August 2008 at 13:31

Would anyone out there have an idea of the wieght thats carried in the form of alcoholic beverages?Personally I would be glad to see the back of them,RAF Transport command didnt have booze on board and it didnt hurt anyone ,now that fuel cost have gone up It should be made compulsary.What do the readers think!!

Airlines have to carry drinks. The diuretic effects of ethanol may mean they have to carry more weight than if they just carried water, but it’d not be easy to calculate the difference.

As for increasing fuel costs – simple! Make airlines charge by weight. That’d discourage heavy bags, & obese passengers who overflow their seats (don’t you hate it when one sits next to you?). The extra weight some people are carrying around massively outweighs the beer I drink on a flight, even the long-haul ones where they still give it away – though far more parsimoniously than 20 years ago.

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By: symon - 20th August 2008 at 13:11

Can’t remember the last time I went on an airline that gave out free drinks, the budget airlines make a significant amount of money with on board sales, they won’t cut out the sale of alcohol that’s for sure.

The large legacy carriers do of course give out free drinks, would be interested to know if the cost of the booze they carry is indeed part of the ticket price as of course, not everyone takes it. When I’m flying long haul, I enjoy having a beer or two with my meal then another few beers/whiskys with the film so I wouldn’t like to see the service go all together.

True about money they get from selling on board for the budget/charter/middle tier airlines. Though if they did stop selling it, I’m not sure it would save any weight – I reckon people would be more inclined to bring their own stuff on board to make up for it.

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By: A Spalding - 20th August 2008 at 12:23

They should have to make there own way back at there expence then get the full book thrown at them when they return to the UK.

I was under the impression that it was at their expence. The passenger/s would disembark the aircraft and the local police would deal with the matter. The passenger/s when released would then have to make their own arrangements for returning to the UK or home country.

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By: Vicbitter - 20th August 2008 at 09:39

The fact is most airlines give out “free drinks”,of course nothings free so how much goes on the ticket price? Poor show if a person cant do without alcohol for about 10/12 hours!

Can’t remember the last time I went on an airline that gave out free drinks, the budget airlines make a significant amount of money with on board sales, they won’t cut out the sale of alcohol that’s for sure.

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By: KabirT - 20th August 2008 at 09:29

really nice place to be “dumped” at nonetheless. 😀

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By: wl745 - 20th August 2008 at 07:39

take it off!

The fact is most airlines give out “free drinks”,of course nothings free so how much goes on the ticket price? Poor show if a person cant do without alcohol for about 10/12 hours!

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By: Vicbitter - 20th August 2008 at 07:19

It would be great if airlines stopped serving booze, but I would imagine the profit from the sales far exceed the cost of carrying the stuff.

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By: wl745 - 20th August 2008 at 03:23

Booze on planes

Would anyone out there have an idea of the wieght thats carried in the form of alcoholic beverages?Personally I would be glad to see the back of them,RAF Transport command didnt have booze on board and it didnt hurt anyone ,now that fuel cost have gone up It should be made compulsary.What do the readers think!!

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By: Newforest - 19th August 2008 at 22:38

Surprised you didn’t see the ‘special’ Southwest flight to Vegas in the link, PMM, number 7 I believe!:D

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By: PMN - 19th August 2008 at 22:02

Ahh, the typical chav weekend drinker who can’t handle it… Gotta love ’em!

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By: lukeylad - 19th August 2008 at 21:49

Ah the Scurge any one who travels by air in modern times!

To be honest airlines should land there drunken passengers at the nearest possible runway no matter what country, They should have to make there own way back at there expence then get the full book thrown at them when they return to the UK.

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