Piccies and film
http://www.rtvnh.nl/nieuws/88731/Defensie+bergt+Messerschmitt+in+IJsselmeer
By: CeBro - 18th October 2012 at 10:26
Paul,
Ach jah Werner, I knew the first name was incorrect.:o
There was debate between “experts” (not me) that it was either an E1 or E3
but as Mark has also mentioned it is considered to be indeed an E1.
Haase was slightly injured.
Cees
By: paulmcmillan - 18th October 2012 at 08:30
Yes, it’s an E-1 flown by Hermann Haase IIRC and ditched 11 may 1940 which makes it a very significant find for Dutch History. The engine and one wing are still to be recovered. Hopefully it will go to Soesterberg.
Cees
This one?
From Battle of France Then and Now by Peter Cornwell
May 11 1940
6.(J)TrGr.186 Messerschmitt Bf109E-“3”
Shot down by flak and crashed in the Waddenzee near the Afsluitdijk 3.30pm. Uffz. W. Haase captured. Aircraft a write off
“W” Haase is Werner Haase
By: CeBro - 18th October 2012 at 07:35
Yes, it’s an E-1 flown by Hermann Haase IIRC and ditched 11 may 1940 which makes it a very significant find for Dutch History. The engine and one wing are still to be recovered. Hopefully it will go to Soesterberg.
Cees
By: shepsair - 17th October 2012 at 20:37
Bf109
with squared off wheel well, no blister and you can just see port for MG17’s (not sure if the two shown were from the wings or the fuselage), then it does look like an E-1.
Mark
By: One of the Few - 17th October 2012 at 19:52
The wing that came out of the water had a machine gun port and also squared off wheel wells which makes me think its an Emil.
By: Tuck1940 - 17th October 2012 at 17:25
Maybe its Franz von Werra machine ?
By: Tin Triangle - 17th October 2012 at 16:33
Nice machine! Do we yet know which variant this is? Looking at the photos, I realise I’m not enough of a ‘109 expert to tell…
By: ericmunk - 17th October 2012 at 16:28
I’m amazed not more aircraft have been brought up.
Some years ago a very badly damaged P-47 was lifted and its pilot finally recovered (story and pics of the plane here: http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/v/p-47D.htm).
Then there was the dozens of aircraft wrecks found when the polders were drained for new land in the 1970s. I don;t have exact figures by heart, but a lot of aircrew were finally recovered and properly buried then. Large sections of these aircraft survive in museum. CeBro will be able to fill you in.
By: Fouga23 - 17th October 2012 at 15:03
If it were a Spitfire, it would already be on the UK register :p
Nice find! And it’s a freshwater recovery 🙂 With such a shallow freshwater lake, I’m amazed not more aircraft have been brought up.
By: ericmunk - 17th October 2012 at 12:47
Brief:
– Being recovered by a MoD team.
– Aircraft not identified yet, but probably will be judging by the amount of wreckage.
– Unknown if associated with human remains, but none have been recovered so far.
– Being removed because it posed a probable hazard to scuba divers in the area.
– MoD tipped off by a civilian crew who was actually looking for a missing Lockheed Hudson.
– So far one wing, small parts, guns and ammo recovered.
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