Dutch 2 seat Spitfires

Thanks all

Thanks very much for your help all, the photos are most appreciated and should provide a good foundation for our proposed paint scheme. Keep an eye on our website and you’ll see our machine all painted up soon(ish) 😉

SB

9 photo’s of Netherlands Air Force duals

Hi Spitfire builder,

Check your “Thruxton Aero hotmail” box for photo’s.

Regards,

Benno

spitfires

Thanks again all, more and more info is coming in, keep em coming.

So who do you know then Mark12? pm me pls

@ Benno yes that would be great and the pics would be most appreciated, thankyou.

Ok got to run again, work to be doing.

Welcome to the forum

There are a number of current and former (such as myself) Spitfire builders on here, so feel free to ask any questions if you think we may be able to help.

I have always found colour schemes to be an interesting conundrum. It is rare indeed that you will find more than 1 or 2 pictures of the aircraft you wish to depict, and you are then left with a good chunk of research, a bit of intuition and a little guesswork! Sometimes you have to give it your best shot!

The Chipmunk I am slowly painting at present was causing me some headaches until one of the forum members posted shots of that very aircraft, in full colour, both on the ground and in the air! That solved some problems I can tell you! So there is also a fairly hefty dose of luck involved!

That said, MarkV and Mark12 are very knowledgeable, and can answer most questions you have on colour schemes; just dont expect to find all the information you need in one photo!

Bruce

Spitfire in Netherlands Air Force colours

I could do that; as long it’s not on short term, and when you are pretty sure it’s really going to be a Dutch scheme. (Will scan a couple of photo’s tonight a send them to your ‘@hotmail.com’)

Regards,

Benno

(Yes, it’s me, the Harvard maniac)

Well with a little more digging around someone here has seen some pictures of Dutch two seaters but they are not good enough quality for us to use as guides for the paintscheme on our machine.

No, if you want to get it correct you will need a set of full size dimensioned instructional drawings prepared and colour chips, combined with the Vickers works paint drawing.

Now who do we know who has done that a dozen times and more? :rolleyes:

Mark12

Gareth, check your email. BW Roger

Spitfirebuilder,

I suggested the RNethAF scheme to the owner and also supplied him with a number of images of the variations and possibilities.

Mark12

Well with a little more digging around someone here has seen some pictures of Dutch two seaters but they are not good enough quality for us to use as guides for the paintscheme on our machine.

@ Roger, check your PM’s please.

Hi Mark,

No I didn’t see it untill now. crazy prices for just a pic. Is that the Spit with the all yellow tail? Realy like that one. I have the dual one in high res if you want it. Don’t know if it is a known one. BW Roger

hi Mark,

Here it is, computer was in the “I ignore all Spitfires except when they are in Luftwaffe livery mode” it normally is in.That’s why it didn’t want to post the pic. BW Roger

Roger,

Ah! That’s better. Nice shot.

Did you see the price that the Luftwaffe Spitfire shot made on ebay.

Out of focus, tail chopped off…£174 😮

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6213096787&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Mark

hi Mark,

Here it is, computer was in the “I ignore all Spitfires except when they are in Luftwaffe livery mode” it normally is in.That’s why it didn’t want to post the pic. BW Roger

here is a pic of one of the Dutch ones. BW Roger

Lovely shot Roger.

Flying through a snow storm?

Mark

here is a pic of one of the Dutch ones. BW Roger

For some reasons, the picture won’t upload, any one a clue why?

Thanks for your help all.

@ Mark12, i have seen your name a few times around these forums and i guessed i knew you then, though I still haven’t figured out exactly who you are ;). Anyways theres some confusion over those alleged photos one of our people says the owner has those photographs, yet the owner has told me that he does not have those photographs, i am inclined to believe him as its his aircraft and he wants us to paint it. Perhaps if you know where those photos came from or who supplied them you could share that info. with me and i will go chase them down again.

http://www.classicaerothruxton.com/

Thanks again all

Spitfirebuilder,

I suggested the RNethAF scheme to the owner and also supplied him with a number of images of the variations and possibilities.

Mark12

2 seaqt spits.

Thanks for your help all.

@ Mark12, i have seen your name a few times around these forums and i guessed i knew you then, though I still haven’t figured out exactly who you are ;). Anyways theres some confusion over those alleged photos one of our people says the owner has those photographs, yet the owner has told me that he does not have those photographs, i am inclined to beleive him as its his aircraft and he wants us to paint it. Perhaps if you know where those photos came from or who supplied them you could share that info. with me and i will go chase them down again.

@ BennoT6 i beleive we have had dealings with you before, with regard to our Harvard, small world a? Would be a nice flight over to the Netherlands not sure if we’d have the range to do it on one tank, never mind we’ll have to take the scenic route 😉 😉 Dont suppose you have pictures of those schemes do you, the overall silver scheme sounds very interesting. You can find all of the information on our spitfire in the ‘current restorations’ section of our webiste which is at the address below

http://www.classicaerothruxton.com/

Thanks again all

Dutch Spitfire dual

Gentlemen,

As far as I know we basically only had three colourschemes for the two-seaters here; two Air Force schemes and a civilian targer-tug.
1. standard RAF camouflage, with both RAF serial and Dutch serials (H-97/H-99). Two different presentations of Dutch serials.
2. silver/aluminium scheme, with either standard Dutch serials (H-97/H-99) or 322-squadroncodes (3W-..)
3. civilian, orange scheme, Schreiner target tug PH-NFN.

BTW, what is the identity of this twoseater being rebuild at Thruxton ?

When it’s ready for flight it should definitely visit the Royal Netherlands Air Force Historical Flight at Gilze-Rijen ! We had G-CCCA/161 visiting last Saturday; most welcome. Was probably the first time in some 50+ years that a Spit twoseater was here.

Regards,

Benno

Hi all

Thanks for picking this post up, i hope one of you can help.

I work for an aircraft restoration company and we currenly re-building a Spitfire MK IX. We are re-building it to the original Supermarine specification 2 seat type 509, sometimes referred to as a high back. We have decided to depict a dutch airforce machine but we are having difficulties in securing some photographs of dutch 2 seat spitfires. Can anyone out there help? Perhaps you would like to visit us and get up close and personal with our spitfire, well of course you could if you were hand delivering the needed pictures 😉 😉

I hope someone can help, again thankyou.

If you are not a million miles from Thruxton, I think you will find that the owner already has the said photos of the Dutch two-seat Spitfires.

Mark

The former curator of the Aviodome and Dutch Spitfire-guru Harry van der Meer has published two books, Dutch Spitfire’s part 1 (history details) and part 2 (a technical study) that contain a number of good quality pictures and drawings of the Dutch 2-seaters. I have both books in my library so PM me if you think they could be of use and we can arrange something.

Harm-Jan