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Duxford's Advance Ticket Only Airshow

To my mind this is a very worrying development that I really hope doesn’t take hold and become a regular thing. What it does is shift all the bad weather loss risk onto the paying public who are forced to buy their tickets before they can possibly know that they have a reasonable chance of not having to stand under an umbrella all day, and for this reason I will probably give this show a miss. What do you, fellow forumites think ?

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By: The Bump - 28th July 2015 at 19:00

I don’t have a problem with advanced ticket sales providing the venue states this at the start.
Old Warden was unfortunate in that they stated no admittance without a ticket after the venue had sold out.
I’m just glad that I purchased RIAT tickets this year!
But come come RIAT an admin fee for purchasing tickets that you print out at home?

Good point, at least the IWM send paper tickets.

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By: Mike J - 28th July 2015 at 17:57

Old Warden made it very clear that they were likely to sell out, and gave a couple of days notice before they stopped selling tickets.

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By: hampden98 - 28th July 2015 at 17:53

I don’t have a problem with advanced ticket sales providing the venue states this at the start.
Old Warden was unfortunate in that they stated no admittance without a ticket after the venue had sold out.
I’m just glad that I purchased RIAT tickets this year!
But come come RIAT an admin fee for purchasing tickets that you print out at home?

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By: scotavia - 28th July 2015 at 16:51

Meddle that can only work for Prestwick as it has sponsors.Airshow acts must be paid for. Even taking a static item to a show can involve a fee to be paid by the organisers.Goodwill abounds but fuel and insurance are not cheap.

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By: Meddle - 28th July 2015 at 16:34

Prestwick has the right idea. Free show on the Saturday for the general public and paid entry to the static display on Sunday for the dedicated.

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By: The Bump - 28th July 2015 at 15:42

Misleading info on website, it mentions an ‘adult two days’ ticket I took that to mean sat and sun?

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By: The Bump - 22nd July 2015 at 16:25

Don’t think you’ve lost your marbles completely yet, I believe it was definitely pushed back a week or so as not to clash…. with Goodwood if I recall?

Thanks for the reassurance,I normally check and double check theses things.
That said,I have to submit my holiday requests early Jan first come first served.
It’s likely the date change slipped by me after putting my dates in.

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By: Agent K - 22nd July 2015 at 05:50

Don’t think I’ll be going………not because of the advance ticket requirement but it appears I have booked the wrong week off :stupid:
I’m sure the date was changed from its original one.
I have had a lot on my mind though……….

Don’t think you’ve lost your marbles completely yet, I believe it was definitely pushed back a week or so as not to clash…. with Goodwood if I recall?

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By: The Bump - 21st July 2015 at 19:20

Don’t think I’ll be going………not because of the advance ticket requirement but it appears I have booked the wrong week off :stupid:
I’m sure the date was changed from its original one.
I have had a lot on my mind though……….

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By: TwinOtter23 - 21st July 2015 at 19:06

… Everyone would be fighting to get into the show.

They already seem to be, that’s why the shows are selling out on the basis of advanced ticket sales!

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By: WH904 - 21st July 2015 at 19:02

True, but I tend to go with the opinion that show organisers need to regard their audience as customers rather than eager enthusiasts. We all know the reasons for the obsession with safety issues these days, but I don’t think anyone could seriously argue that there’s not huge irony in being able to get a far better view of air shows outside the events than inside them. The show organisers shrug their shoulders and say that they’re bound by the CAA’s rules, but do they ever challenge the CAA? As far as I’m aware, not one show organiser has ever pointed-out to the CAA that the current situation simply bores the show spectators but doesn’t prevent so much as one person from being at risk outside the event – as if their safety is somehow less important because they haven’t paid to go to the show (and I mean local residents rather than the much-criticised “freeloaders”). It’s ludicrous, and I don’t think it’s unfair to say so. I think there’s a very simple point to bear in mind – if the show was sufficiently interesting/exciting/satisfying, then arguments over admission costs wouldn’t arise. Everyone would be fighting to get into the show.

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By: Agent K - 21st July 2015 at 15:49

Indeed – this is one of the ironies of the modern air show scene. You can watch the show for free outside, or you can pay for the privilege of standing inside, further away from the flying display aircraft. Madness! 🙂

It’s NOT for free, all those inside who have the passion to keep the aircraft flying and the museum running are paying for it. If you really and passionately wanted to keep these historic aircraft preserved or flying you’d do the same. If we all stand outside watching it for “free” there is no airshow.

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By: Mauld - 21st July 2015 at 15:39

Has anyone considered there may be a security aspect to this? Being able to drive a vehicle onto site and wander freely about with a rucksack does give the opportunity for a potential attack on a powerful symbol of British Imperialism. Buying advanced tickets can provide a security check on visitors.

Of course I may be a bit paranoid.

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By: WH904 - 21st July 2015 at 13:11

Indeed – this is one of the ironies of the modern air show scene. You can watch the show for free outside, or you can pay for the privilege of standing inside, further away from the flying display aircraft. Madness! 🙂

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By: scotavia - 21st July 2015 at 12:48

Dave, you can join the air cadets at age 13 and fire rifles for free. Getting back to the topic,if you expect different then expect to pay for getting on site.Unusually an air display is one of the few events where you can see some of the display from outside the fence and this has always been the case. Just depends what you want from the event.

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By: daveg4otu - 21st July 2015 at 12:11

My first airshow was at Worthy Down in 1955…free ..as were all the other Naval events in my area (Lee-on-Solent, Portsmouth Navy days – twice a year). RAF Thorney Island was our destination for BoB days (reachable by bike from Southampton)….also Free in the 50s.
A decade later the USAFE shows at Upper Heyford were free…don’t know but I guess the others were as well (Mildenhall Wethersfield etc).

Worthy Down was notable as in 1955 at the age of 12 , I was able to use a rifle with live ammo on the range there…..unthinkable nowadays …both from the H&S angle and the cost of ammo.

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By: charliehunt - 21st July 2015 at 12:11

I rarely recall paying many years ago but of course you are right. Free at the point of entry but like the NHS’s free at the point of use – in reality a heavy cost borne largely by the taxpayer.

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By: Agent K - 21st July 2015 at 11:10

Ultimately these and any show were NOT free, i.e. someone was paying for them. Back in the day the military were able to pick up the bill, so no punters were charged. This golden age is now long gone. Private owners and operators cannot sustain free shows, so ultimately the punters have to pay. I still consider airshows, especially when using Friends of Duxford and SVAS membership benefits still present excellent value compared to where else I could spend my finite budget.

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By: WH904 - 21st July 2015 at 11:00

Well I don’t imagine every show staged at these venues was free, but most were, as were many others. But if this discussion is going to become a point-scoring exercise then I’ll leave you to it. I simply stated that most shows were once free and this is true.

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By: Mike J - 21st July 2015 at 10:53

I used to go to many of the East Anglian shows from the early-80s on. Mildenhall, Lakenheath, Wyton, Marham, Alconbury, Bentwaters. I can’t recall ANY of them being free.

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