January 27, 2004 at 8:06 am
Sounds like good news for airbus!
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Gov’t snubs BAE and Boeing in multi-billion dollar aircraft order
LONDON (AFP) – The government has snubbed leading British defence contractor BAE Systems over a huge contract to provide the Royal Air Force with refuelling aircraft — preferring the French-German consortium EADS.
The contract is worth 13 billion pounds (18.8 billion euros, 23.7 billion dollars).
The defence ministry said Monday that it had rejected BAE’s bid, in conjunction with US aviation giant Boeing, and that a consortium led by Franco-German defence group EADS was considered “most likely” to offer the best value.
The ministry would now enter into “detailed negotiations” with the EADS-led AirTanker consortium, which also comprises Rolls Royce, Cobham and Thales, over the contract, it said in a statement.
“A final decision on whether or not to proceed with a… contract will not be taken until these discussions have been successfully concluded — a process that is likely to take a number of months,” it added.
However BAE Systems has a 20-percent interest in the Airbus consortium which represents the giant’s share of activities by EADS.
BAE builds wings for Airbus aircraft and therefore stands to benefit from the contract indirectly.
Any deal on the overall contract will be done on the basis of a so-called private finance initiative (PFI), a method the British government uses in an attempt to cut costs by bringing commercial business practices into government.
Under a PFI deal, AirTanker would own and maintain the aircraft and provide training, infrastructure and some personnel, whilst the RAF would use the planes for military operations.
This would allow AirTanker to use any aircraft not needed by the RAF during peacetime to generate revenue through commercial use, keeping down costs.
Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon said that the EADS-led proposal “offers the best prospect of securing a value for money PFI service”, although “a number of important issues remain to be resolved”.
The RAF is seeking to replace its decades-old fleet of VC10 and Tristar refuelling aircraft, which under the AirTanker deal would see adapted AirBus A330-200 airliners used.
BAE and Boeing had planned to use Boeing 767 aircraft.
By: MSR777 - 30th January 2004 at 17:51
Great news!! The outcome I had really hoped for, Good news for Airbus!
By: LN Strike Eagle - 29th January 2004 at 09:34
Originally posted by steve rowell
Nice pics, shouldn’t they be in the military forum????
Is it really that major? Does the paint on the body make that much difference to you? :rolleyes:
By: Hand87_5 - 29th January 2004 at 07:05
Maybe , I wondered when I posted this new thread.
However it’s all aboyt the A330 , therefore I decided to post it here.
By: steve rowell - 29th January 2004 at 03:17
Nice pics, shouldn’t they be in the military forum????
By: Hand87_5 - 28th January 2004 at 17:29
Nice pictures
By: Britannia - 27th January 2004 at 17:30
(sorry Chris, the BY Concorde will have to wait )
If you cannot do it it does’nt matter 🙂
By: LN Strike Eagle - 27th January 2004 at 15:47
And here’s the demonstrator….
By: tenthije - 27th January 2004 at 14:33
here you go
By: LN Strike Eagle - 27th January 2004 at 14:10
The RAF Tristars don’t have a refeulling probe. The internal fuel capacity of them and the A330 is probably more than adequate for tanker sorties.
By: LN Strike Eagle - 27th January 2004 at 14:08
Great news. The A330 is the better choice for the RAF, good to see the right choice was made. Can’t wait to see them in service, they’ll look superb.
The Americans have frozen their order for the KC-767 and are now looking at the A330 aswell I believe, but I doubt it’ll come to anything; just a warning shot to Boeing after their recent troubles.
By: tenthije - 27th January 2004 at 14:08
won’t the A330 be able to refuel itself? The VC-10 and 707s have a probe.
By: Mark L - 27th January 2004 at 14:00
I would have thought they would be used for crew transports too, the MoD already use BMIs A330s in that role.
By: Hand87_5 - 27th January 2004 at 13:56
Originally posted by andrewm
And what happens to those tube thingys when it comes to land surly they would fall on ground and get scrapped to bits?
Andrew , those things are retractable.
By: andrewm - 27th January 2004 at 13:46
Will they use the cabin for transporting troops also?
And what happens to those tube thingys when it comes to land surly they would fall on ground and get scrapped to bits?
By: Portugal - 27th January 2004 at 13:45
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By: Portugal - 27th January 2004 at 13:44
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By: Portugal - 27th January 2004 at 13:40
Everything you need to know about the A-330 for Royal Air Force:
By: andrewm - 27th January 2004 at 13:35
Usually a pipe thingy out of its backside isnt it?
Then the aircraft stick their hard probes up the A330’s hole etc etc
🙂
By: tenthije - 27th January 2004 at 13:17
What refueling system will this tanker be equiped with, hoses or booms. How many and at what location(s).
By: tenthije - 27th January 2004 at 12:23
I’ll give it a try!
(sorry Chris, the BY Concorde will have to wait :p)