Easyjet now bigger than Ryanair

Excuse me, Easyjet are firmy no-frills, they are not mainline. They make you pay for a cup of coffee, they dont serve a meal even on a run to Athens and their cabin staff wear orange t-shirts!

EZY and RYR are completely diffrent airlines anyway. RYR are unique 1) operate to ‘alternative’/cheap airports 2) have the lowest fairs anywhere, with no compertition. Easyjet are just a slightly cheaper ‘mainline’ airline. As pointed out EZY are not much cheaper from LGW and thats where their main expansion is taking place.
On a personal point RYR fly from STN( 90min away),EZY from LGW( 30 min away) and EZY fly to proper airports so I will always choose EZY.
Oh and PS MrEasyjet LGW-FRA next pleaseeeeee.

If I want to attract the attention of a cabin crew member on Ryanair, do I press the call button or knock on the lavatory door?

EZY’s fleet has grown so fast, and with various airframes, it is costly. With a carrier like WN, their fleet gradually grew over time and maintaining the same frame, this saved tons of money. IMHO, any LCC that diversifies their fleet with too many models and mfgs. are asking to be hit hard in the pocket book. Oil prices hit every single carrier no matter what plane they fly.

Did you ever considered 2 thinks:
1) Price of oil
2) Maybe the started the payment of the 319’s !!!

1) As I stated in my first reply. The Profits started nose diving well before the oil prices
2) It doesn’t work like that. But could be linked

Did you ever considered 2 thinks:
1) Price of oil
2) Maybe the started the payment of the 319’s !!!

Will be interesting to see if the same happens with JetBlue when they start operating EMB-190s and A320s.

Are we sure that this really is the reason that EZY is losing more money than it had been?

no we’re not sure.

But the coincidence is pretty strong.

A319 starts operations and the books start showing the profits are slowly deminishing.

That all it maybe, coincidence. But it is known a mixed fleet is not the best for a low cost operation.

Will be interesting to see if the same happens with JetBlue when they start operating EMB-190s and A320s.

Are we sure that this really is the reason that EZY is losing more money than it had been?

i think the problem with EasyJet is,they started to stray from the Loco bible, only use 1 aircraft type,use regional airports instead of main airports,and some of there prices are not cheap, i did a little research on 4 destinations and found out i could get a BA flight cheaper for example…i wanted go to prague in October, Easyjet quoted me £50 each way,which i thought wasnt bad..looked it up on BA and they wanted £78 Rtn and the flight times were friendlier too and i get a meal thrown in,and if anything did go wrong,i got all the experiance of BA and its Oneworld partners and franchise operators for back up

I think Easyjet started to slide when they took over Go!

Thats my point.
Now that EZY are operating a mixed type fleet they’re loosing money, big time.
I wasn’t saying the A319 was the cause.

EZY should have stayed all 737 for a while longer.

i think the problem with EasyJet is,they started to stray from the Loco bible, only use 1 aircraft type,use regional airports instead of main airports,and some of there prices are not cheap, i did a little research on 4 destinations and found out i could get a BA flight cheaper for example…i wanted go to prague in October, Easyjet quoted me £50 each way,which i thought wasnt bad..looked it up on BA and they wanted £78 Rtn and the flight times were friendlier too and i get a meal thrown in,and if anything did go wrong,i got all the experiance of BA and its Oneworld partners and franchise operators for back up

I think Easyjet started to slide when they took over Go!

As much as I like EZY, I do not consider them the biggest. That goes to FR for now.

EZY are expereincing a lot of money issues. Shares, fuel, etc.

Infact am I the only one who has noticed that EZY profits began a nose dive right after the introduction of the A319?.

Sure, EZY state it is fuel prices, but the profits we’re falling well before the oild started creeping up in price.

i think in most cases it’s down to Stock market value

weighted average of:

passengers carried
size of fleet
sales
number of staff employed
value of assets
number of routes
number of daily departures
amount of belly freight carried
geographical reach

and probably 20 others I can’t think of right now.

It’s also hard to say they are larger/smaller, because they don’t fly any route they both fly, except for a few, but Ryanair flies to cheaper airports.

Passengers flown annually and that makes FR bigger.

I would suggest you look at every aspect, fleet size, pax, routes, staff, number of flights flown etc and then make an average out of it.

I would say more on the number of passengers handled annually?