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Edgar Percival – and the Percival Aircraft

Happy New Year

I thought it would be nice to find out more about this Australian aircraft designer and in particular more about Percival Aircraft Ltd.

I am wondering what happened to the company after World War 2.

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By: Proctor VH-AHY - 2nd January 2009 at 12:19

Mark

I forwarded your photo on to a friend and received a reply which contained the following:

“I remember this – I was there at the time, Wodonga, November 1976! Quite an occasion – but no trilby! I was still in my teens”

quite a co-incidence I think. (I have de-identified the reply – no names no pack drill!)

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By: mark_pilkington - 2nd January 2009 at 10:59

Maurice is completing his DH89 Rapide which is about 6 months away from completion, I expect he will then move to the Proctor which is stored in the same hangar.

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By: Proctor VH-AHY - 2nd January 2009 at 10:24

Mark

Thanks for the info, another question, is VH-UXS under active restoration?

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By: mark_pilkington - 2nd January 2009 at 08:57

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Ross

Yes VH-BQA is Leigh Giles project, originally carried the registration VH-ACA and was formerly owned by Lord Casey, BQA is a subsequent registration, not a current registration or reservation.

VH-UXS is the current registration of Maurice Rolfes Proctor restoration, formerly VH-DUL.

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By: Proctor VH-AHY - 2nd January 2009 at 08:38

Ron

That’s a great photo and VH-CCM belongs to a friend of mine. Pity I don’t have his email.

Mark

I am interested in the Under Restoration
Vega Gull II VH-BQA
Proctor I VH-UXS

strangly enough, I am completely familar with the restoration of VH-AHY. Is VH-BQA the one Leigh has? and did it once belong to Lord Casey?

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By: Ron Cuskelly - 2nd January 2009 at 07:50

This is Edgar Percival posing with Gull VI VH-CCM at Wodonga on 6 Nov 1976.

http://www.adastron.com/aviation/vault/Edgar-Percival.jpg

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By: mark_pilkington - 2nd January 2009 at 06:35

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VH-EPN is a complete example formerly with the Drage Airworld collection at Wangaratta, now privately owned and under restoration by Todd Miller in Victoria.

c/n 28 VH-EPN ex- VH-DAI/SSC/SSV ex-G-APBR under restoration Victoria, Australia

The fuselage of a second is displayed in “quasi” Army scheme in Lincoln Nitschke’s collection in South Australia

c/n 46 ex- VH-SSR ex- VH-DAV fuselage only Lincoln Nitschke Aviation Museum, Greenock, Australia

2 out of the 9 world wide survivors in Australia, 7 complete, 2 fuselages (4 currently airworthy).

It seems a reasonable effort to acknowledge Edgar Percival.

I understand he did the design of the EP-9, it being the first product of his “new” company Edgar Percival Aircraft Limited after he had sold and left the Percival Aircraft Company to Hunting, although Australia holds a few other notable Percival products including:

Flying
Gull IV VH-UTP
Gull VI VH-CCM

Under Restoration
Vega Gull II VH-BQA
Proctor I VH-UXS
Proctor I VH-AHY

Static Display
Gull VI G-AERD
Proctor I VH-FEP
Proctor I VH-AUC
Proctor 2 VH-BQR
Proctor 2 VH-AVG
Proctor 5 VH-BCM

The Gulls & Proctors probably being the better memorial to his sleek pre-war designs, that he was best known for.

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By: Proctor VH-AHY - 2nd January 2009 at 01:20

When chasing the drawings for the Proctor, I was told that Percival Aircraft was sold to another english aircraft manufacturing company and the owner of that company hated Edgar and ordered that the drawings be destroyed

I can’t remember where I heard it, does anyone else recall hearing a story along those lines?

What sources of Percival Aircraft Drawings are there, any in the UK?

Who is restoring VH-EPN?

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By: JDK - 1st January 2009 at 22:25

Does an EP.9 have a place on display in Australia to honour the man or was he in the background in terms of design by then?

Well, there’s one under restoration, VH-EPN, and another fuselage in Australia, according to Wikipedia.

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By: David Burke - 1st January 2009 at 22:18

Does an EP.9 have a place on display in Australia to honour the man or was he in the background in terms of design by then?

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By: JDK - 1st January 2009 at 22:16

The National museum of Australia has a substantial collection of his trophies and memorabilia, and papers, as well as Gull 6 G-AERD.

http://www.nma.gov.au/collections-search/display?irn=34445

A search under Edgar Percival nets most of the material, including many examples of ‘Display stand for a small scale model of an aeroplane’ for which the full record is ‘a display stand for a small scale model of an aeroplane’, no image available. Nice cataloguing. :rolleyes:

The Silverster book is well worth tracking down.

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By: G-ORDY - 1st January 2009 at 12:36

Edgar Percival

Prickly guy – I remember the tingle that ran down my spine when I came home from work one evening and my wife said “An old gentleman has been on the phone for you” – yep, none other than EWP himself, after a copy of “Vintage Aircraft” magazine in which I’d published a photo of the prototype Gull under construction at Lowe-Wylde’s workshop in Maidstone!

I’ve scanned his obit from The Times for you:

Edgar Percival Obit.pdf

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By: G-ASEA - 1st January 2009 at 11:17

There is another good book on Percival’s called ‘Percival and Hunting Aircraft’ by John Silvester

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st January 2009 at 09:46

They were taken over by Hunting and Son Ltd in 1944.

The company history is covered in “Percival’s Aircraft” by Norman H Ellison, published by Chalford Publishing Company in 1997 in their Archive Photographs series

Happy New Year

Ralph

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